Oh, the wicked web you weave...

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  1. Justa Jim

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    Personally I think VW is cool. What a scam against the USA Oil magnets who tell the EPA how high to jump. More power to them. If there were more cars that got 60+ mpg, we wouldn't need to worry about our oil reserves. :Thumbsup:
     
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    I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that all the workers that lose their jobs over this will have a much different opinion on the coolness of this scam.
     
  3. Firebro17

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    I can't stand the government and its regulations.... Don't get me started. But, I guess I don't see anything cool about this at all.
     
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    +1. VW wasn't trying to be cool or preserve oil reserves. They just wanted to sell cars, and had no problem lying to buyers.

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  5. Metalman

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    Comparing the VW diesel debacle to the GM ignition issue, I personally consider GM the more egregious company of the two. I'm still not sure which is worse, old GM or new GM. GM did a lot more cover up, lying, and deaths resulted with the ignition switch.

    So far VW has seemingly admitted wrongdoing now that it's been made public. They did use some red herring tactics when the EPA first started asking questions. So far no deaths have been blamed on the diesel issue....

    It will be interesting to see how the fines are played out to a foreign owned company versus a US owned company... Is VW going to be considered too big to fail?
     
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    If the oil guys told the epa what to do we wouldn't be looking at 50mpg fleet average mandates in the coming few years.
     
  7. Crashton

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    I'm guessing being of the age that you can remember the brown skies & smog that used to be California's air before pollution controls I understand Jon. Being a Midwest boy I've only experienced air like that when I worked at the steel mill 43 years ago. I didn't much like breathing that carp either.

    It's pretty easy for anyone who hasn't experienced that kind of pollution to make jokes about what VW has done. I'm guilty of that too.

    I do think it is an ingenious cheat. That being said, they have screwed everyone who drives a VW diesel or gas. I can hear my GTI depreciating as I type this & is even crying big drops of coolant.
     
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    Volkswagen chief executive Martin Winterkorn resigned.
     
  9. Metalman

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    Rumor has it our government will apply the $18B windfall fines towards propping up our social security system or maybe medicaid or maybe our highway and bridge infrastructure or maybe helping the vet's or maybe the homeless......

    Whoops.... This just in.... it's going into the Foreign Aid fund.... After they finish that road up in Alaska...

    Alaska's 'road to nowhere' is still a boondoggle - LA Times
     
  10. Nathan

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    Lets leave the politics out of all this please.
     
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    He has been seen riding his golden parachute into retirement. :wink:
     
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  15. Metalman

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    Soooo.... Thinking about grabbing a bunch of VW stock when it hits bottom?:arf:

    Ummmm.... Yeah, when it hits bottom?...

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    Maybe Fiat will switch their takeover focus from GM to VW. Wait haven't the Germans and Italians teamed up before?
     
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    They did and it didn't work out so good.:cryin:
     
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    Audi (part of VW) might want to rethink their "Truth in engineering" slogan.
     
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    Posted to the Midweek Motorsport Listeners Collective Facebook page. (A FB page associated with the Midweek Motorsport radio show by radiolemans.com)

    I'm posting it here only because of the explanation of the differences in compliance testing, etc, between the US and EU. Interesting stuff, assuming it's all true.
     
  20. Metalman

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    Very interesting....

    If this debacle were to kill off the VW racing programs, I'll miss not seeing the Audi's race...
     

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