Engine Drivetrain 2nd Gen S What's up with tuning a 2012 Cooper S

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  1. Jdarc1

    Jdarc1 New Member

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    I have had my 2012 Cooper Clubman s for over a year now. I have had the JCW tune kit installed with the JCW manifold,intake, exhaust, and the tune kit. I do local on road racing several times a year in south jersey. I also have some mods on the suspension. The car runs great but could use a little more power to get my times down. I've read that you can't really tune the 2012 s , I also checked with Alta re: thier tuner and was told by them they stopped making them for that model due to the problems.

    Is this true,that you really cannot tune this year mini and if you can do a tune, where can I get my car tuned in the tri state area or where can i buy a tuner that will work.
     
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    good luck
     
  3. Eric@Helix

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    From what I understand, DME encryption in the 2012s is of a newer generation (basically military grade encryption), and will be a bear to break. I'm sure that at some point, there'll be a product for your car, but as of now, there's not much. If you are feeling daring, there is a method on some DMEs where you short out a couple of pads on the printed circuit board to bypass the security. I have done it on earlier R56 cars, but it's no small deal: opening the DME case requires a healthy dose of heat and patience. It's not without risk.

    At this point, focus on improving the handling, braking and tire grip on your track rocket.
     
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    #4 countryboyshane, Feb 18, 2013
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    NM-engineering and Evolve Automotive can tune the N18 engine ECU, at the time and expense of you shipping your ECU to them. But now, I thought the 2012 might still have the N14? For your "street racing" you can get a lot more bang for your buck just practicing. Power is always the last thing you need. There is always room to improve as a driver. You can't buy experience.
     
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    If "on-road" means road tracks, I hope you find what you need.
    If "On-road" means on surface streets that normal people drive to work on, I hope you wreck your car before your next "event" and learn a lesson.
     
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    :cornut: I assume that Jdarc1 is a responsible citizen and driver unless he specifically says other wise.:Thumbsup:

    Jason
     
  8. InjectedGT

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    I want to give him the benefit of the doubt on that as well, but road courses in NJ aren't ringing a bell lol.
     
  9. Nathan

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    Then you are not looking at correct bell.

    New Jersey Motorsports Park for one

    Englishtown has a road course too

    It's also not that far form a bunch of other tracks in the region such as Summit Point, Pocono, Monticello and for the more intrepid, Watkins Glen and VIR.

    Might I remind you M/A is a positive place. Not all posts and threads should be met with derision.
     
  10. InjectedGT

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    yes, understood. I just read "on road racing" not "track days" and got a bit annoyed.
     
  11. N2MINI

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    This just one of the reasons that the younger crowd is shying away from MINIs as they are becoming non "turner cars" I think MINI is missing the boat by making a car that hardly anyone can tinker with, engine and ECU wise.
     
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    I really don't like when a manufacturer designs something so anti-modification. Sort of like the second gen stereo setup. It's not impossible to swap, not even the hardest I have dealt with, but it's not simple or friendly. Especially if you don't know what you're doing.
     
  13. Johntotah94

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    Manic Motorsport tuned my 2013 R56 all through OBD.
    Map 2 dyno'd at 215whp 241wtq
    Running Map 3 now. Estimated 225whp 260wtq
    Stock turbo. Intake. Downpipe. Exhaust. Intercooler. Plugs.
     
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    Please post the printouts.
     
  15. Johntotah94

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    I attached my dyno.
    Map B no meth
    91 octane
    100 degrees in Los Angeles
     

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    Interesting curves in the torque line.
     
  17. Johntotah94

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    Updated dyno sheet. Just dyno'd earlier today.
    100 degrees outside. Mustang dyno.
    My torque estimate was off but still very good for a stock Cooper S turbo. haha
    226whp 231wtq
     

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