2nd Gen R56 Cooper S P1637 and P2103

Discussion in '2nd Generation: 2007+ R55 through R61' started by genik, Jan 30, 2015.

Tags:
  1. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    Reduced power, showing yellow half engine light on rev meter dash and after an OBD scan, i got P1637 and P2103 error codes. Check engine light on the dash is lit but the misfires and limp mode driving feeling has gone.
    What could it be?
     
  2. DneprDave

    DneprDave Well-Known Member
    Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2010
    2,952
    1,500
    113
    Engineer
    Pacific NW
    Ratings:
    +1,721 / 0 / -0
  3. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    Would there be any chance these codes could be because of a bad HPFP?
     
  4. DneprDave

    DneprDave Well-Known Member
    Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2010
    2,952
    1,500
    113
    Engineer
    Pacific NW
    Ratings:
    +1,721 / 0 / -0
    I don't think so.
     
  5. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    #5 genik, Jan 30, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2015
    Is the failure of the throttle positioning motor a common issue for the R56S?
     
  6. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    Did another check and a 3rd code came up... P3091
     
  7. MCS02

    MCS02 Moderator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2009
    11,176
    6,176
    113
    Male
    Ratings:
    +7,891 / 10 / -3
    Not sure but I'll give you a bump. One of the R56 guys will help.
     
  8. 05r50

    05r50 Well-Known Member

    Dec 4, 2010
    1,269
    696
    113
    Hilliard, Ohio
    Ratings:
    +697 / 0 / -0
    So, you have throttle errors and fuel rail pressure error. Sounds like that is where you should look.

    Could be as simple as a clogged injector. Had that on my kids CRV. Stuttering. Can't keep it running. In the end it was a fuel injector.
     
  9. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    My main concern is, how should the technician begin to diagnose correctly, because most just have the tendency to start changing stuff. But this method -to change stuff until the problem stops- can mean a lot of wasted money!
     
  10. MCS02

    MCS02 Moderator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2009
    11,176
    6,176
    113
    Male
    Ratings:
    +7,891 / 10 / -3
    If you are worried that you shop are parts changers I would take it somewhere els. Are you close to any of ower sponsor?
     
  11. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    Where i come from, ive been to many mini shops but i haven't met one, not one that really know the whereabouts of the mini, or should i say the whereabouts of the engine and its function!
     
  12. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    I just replaced the HighPressureFuelPump but the Throttle valve errors (1637, 1638) are still there. If its the Throttle valve, maybe i need to fix it, maybe clean it someway. has anyone got an idea on how to do this?
     
  13. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Helix & RMW Powered
    Lifetime Supporter

    May 4, 2009
    25,021
    13,497
    113
    Burbs of Philly, PA
    Ratings:
    +14,644 / 10 / -4
    Get your carbon blasted.
     
  14. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    How would carbon be related with the Throttle errors?
     
  15. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Helix & RMW Powered
    Lifetime Supporter

    May 4, 2009
    25,021
    13,497
    113
    Burbs of Philly, PA
    Ratings:
    +14,644 / 10 / -4
    Well since you won't tell us where you are located and you don't want to spend any money you probably use cheap gas and change your oil every 15 thousand miles.

    So your car needs to be maintained. Change the oil, run top tier 93 octane fuel, try some fuel injector cleaner, and get the carbon blasted from your car. Get you car scanned for codes and reset the adaptive's. You have to spend some money to keep things in good running condition.

    If you cannot do basic maintenance for a car a MINI is not for you. Maybe you should look into a Toyota or Honda.
     
  16. Metalman

    Metalman Well-Known Member
    Lifetime Supporter

    Sep 29, 2009
    12,714
    7,659
    113
    Ex-Owner (Retired) of a custom metal fab company.
    Columbus, Ohio
    Ratings:
    +7,916 / 1 / -0
    Orrrrrrr.....
    Consider adding heated mirrors....:Thumbsup:
     
  17. Kenny kustom

    Kenny kustom New Member

    Jan 24, 2015
    297
    178
    0
    Ratings:
    +178 / 0 / -0
    Hmm. I changed the hpfp, yet I still have throttle errors......
     
  18. genik

    genik Member

    Feb 20, 2012
    402
    19
    18
    Ratings:
    +19 / 0 / -0
    why are you repeating me?
     
  19. Kenny kustom

    Kenny kustom New Member

    Jan 24, 2015
    297
    178
    0
    Ratings:
    +178 / 0 / -0
    Because they have nothing to do with each other.
    You didn't want to take it to a mechanic that would just throw parts at it....
    Yet that is exactly what you just did.
     
  20. MCS02

    MCS02 Moderator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2009
    11,176
    6,176
    113
    Male
    Ratings:
    +7,891 / 10 / -3
    Have you had it checked for carbon build up?
     

Share This Page