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First it was the hand crank starter, then the oil burn headlamps, now the clutch pedal.

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There is a skill and involvement that comes with driving a manual gearbox car well that are not present with an auto box. I don't get the same feeling of satisfaction flicking a paddle as when I execute a perfect heel and toe downshift. It may come, for all of the reasons above, that manuals in new cars pass away and it will be a bit sad that the skills and passion associated with them also fade. Thankfully, there is a massive bank of great, engaging cars out there for those of us that value the experience.
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In some cases a manual can be a theft / carjacking deterrent.....
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I don't get the same feeling of satisfaction flicking a paddle as when I execute a perfect heel and toe downshift.
I know it's nothing more than my making a play on words but I doubt there is anyone out there, including NASCAR drivers, who can perform a 'perfect' heel and toe. The intent of that move is to rev match the speed of the car to the rpm's of the engine. Blipping the throttle gets the rpm's close but the only time they're perfect is purely by accident.
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I love my Indian! It has points, a carburetor with a chock and a 6 volt electric system. Also no push button start, you kick it like a real man! Every thing a bike should be!

I know the modern transmissions are great but I just feel like we are losing a skill set that is more then just pushing a clutch and shifting gears.

Tell me which car takes more talent to drive.


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Tell me which car takes more talent to drive.
I will agree 100% that the manual requires more talent and were it not for my gradual loss of dexterity I'd still be driving one. However, one of the things that I'm amused by are the manual drivers, thinking they're so cool, who believe that when down shifting blipping the throttle is rev matching.
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If Senna had to push colored buttons on the steering wheel I think he might not be too thrilled.
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I will agree 100% that the manual requires more talent and were it not for my gradual loss of dexterity I'd still be driving one. However, one of the things that I'm amused by are the manual drivers, thinking they're so cool, who believe that when down shifting blipping the throttle is rev matching.
I can't rev match mine. The danged computer does it for me.
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Just because some people get old and have bad knees does not mean the rest of the world can not still have manuals.
hey i'm old with bad knees and still love the stick.

While we're griping, put the dimmer switch back on the floor will ya.
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I will agree 100% that the manual requires more talent and were it not for my gradual loss of dexterity I'd still be driving one. However, one of the things that I'm amused by are the manual drivers, thinking they're so cool, who believe that when down shifting blipping the throttle is rev matching.
......blipping the throttle while downshifting is rev matching.
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