Suspension Brakes 1st Gen Swift spring question

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  1. mrntd

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    I have swift springs on my R53, just the springs with stock struts (45k mi), not the coil overs. They deliver a much better ride than the stock ones did. In sweepers they work well. But in transitional turns they make the car feel like it's leaning back and forth a lot. I do have a 19mm rear sway bar.

    Do others that have swift springs see the same thing? If not are you still on stock struts?

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  2. BlimeyCabrio

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    My car was quite flat, on Swift springs with Bilstein B8's. I never ran the stock struts with lowering springs.

    How many miles do you have on your struts? I would expect 11 year old struts to be about shot... Lots of motion in transitional corners could just be the struts not damping at all...
     
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    I agree with BlimeyCabrio. I was using JCW Springs with stock JCW shocks (19mm bar and front camber plates) and started noticing a lot of unbalance during Auto-Xs. I have 96,000 miles on the original JCW springs/shocks. One of my front shocks is dead, does not compress or rebound smoothly when just compressed manually on a workbench. I know that, manual compression, is not a perfect test but it did show that the shock was not well. The shock had no signs of leaking just no longer worked well.
     
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    I'll chime in if its ok. I run the TSW V2 springs with the OEM Cooper S dampeners. I love the ride and it handles nicely when it sees a track (very seldom). Someday it will see new aftermarket shocks and struts, just because... The goal was to have a lowered car that I could enjoy a bit more than the stock set up provided, that my wife would still ride in. And, it is.
     
  5. mrntd

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    Originally I wanted to get the TSWs made they weren't being made at time.

    I was thinking it was probably the struts. Now I have to figure out what to get to keep a good ride and improve the handling. I don't do any track time only back roads in southern Ohio so track oriented struts aren't necessary.
     
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    I went with the Swift springs at around 12k and kept the OEM dampers so not many miles on it...
    The change improved the ride and handling... I now have about 25k on the MINI and have no issues...
    I suspect your dampers are the culprit Nick...
     
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    Yep. I just wanted a second opinion. It only has 45k but they are 11 yr old.
     
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    Yeah, those shocks are likely toast after 11 years.

    Re-pair them with some Bilsteins and I think you'll be a very happy camper.
     
  9. Dave.0

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    Just contact Colin for deal on coil overs. :Thumbsup:

    (You know you want them) :devil:
     
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    My wife would never ride in the car again. I do need to keep the ride reasonable on our carpy roads
     
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    It's all about how you are setting up the shocks (They are adjustable) and the Swift spring rates you select. You can make the car ride like a old Caddy or a Track car. :idea:
     
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    And Nick.... If you don't buy em.... Your Nickname with be Genick......:D
     
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
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    The Bilsteins should be supple and firm but not stiff and harsh.
     
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    My current setup on the ridiculous GPR isn't harsh at all, even with full black bushings, huge swaybars, and Colin's coilovers.

    But my wife will NEVER ride in it, anyway. BONUS!
     
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    I think that as enthusiasts... we have a different idea of what 'harsh' is.

    I have people tell me a stock Cooper rides stiff. :crazy:
     
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    I'll have to check into it all when I get back from the Dragon. No time to do anything about it before hand.
     
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    Tons of cars with different suspensions you can ride in at MOTD.... Just sayin'...
     
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    Yep.

    I decided on H&R street coilovers and I'm VERY happy with them. Supple, smooth, quiet, and exactly how I like it.
     
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    I wouldn't recommend letting him in your car...
     

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