Motoring Alliance :: MINI Cooper Forums   Motoring Alliance :: MINI Cooper Forums
Home Register Reviews Gallery M/A Store Library Support M/A Sponsors Clubs Garage Search Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Motoring Alliance :: MINI Cooper Forums > 2nd Generation MINI > Tuning & Modification :: 2nd Generation MINI > Suspension & Brake Modifications


» Random Garage

Lady Bugs Bug

John Purcell
» Ad Links
Advertisement

Advert

Sponsor

Like Tree4Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-05-2011, 11:44 AM   #1
Stage 0 - Stock
borv's Gallery
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 12
Strut Brace/Sway Bar Installation

I'm considering purchasing a strut brace for my 2011 MCS, and was wondering if this is a DIY type of mod. Does the car need to be lifted? Or Can I install it myself in my driveway?

thanks!
Register now to remove this ad
borv is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Link
Register now to remove this ad
Old 09-05-2011, 12:25 PM   #2
Library Moderator
Steve's Gallery
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 4,474
That depends, since your title mentions two different things.

If you mean a strut tower brace, the thing that bolts to the top of the strut towers with a bar that runs between them, it's one of the easiest things you can do. Remove 6 nuts, install the brace, put the bolts back on and torque correctly, done. Some bars are adjustable to allow you to pre-load, which is another simple step done after it's installed, but instructions that come with the bar should explain how you do that.

A sway bar is at least a couple more notches up on both the level of effort and mechanical ability meters. Still possible as a DIY but quite a bit more effort. Are you talking about front, rear, or both?
__________________
straights are for fast cars, turns are for fast drivers
Steve is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 01:23 PM   #3
Stage 0 - Stock
borv's Gallery
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 12
Right now I'm looking at the JCW strut brace that goes across the 2 strut towers in the front.

I'm looking to get a bit more stiffness and less body roll in the twists, and I'm hoping the strut brace will help.

Do you know what difference exists between a strut brace and a non-adjustable sway bar in the front?

I'll be doing the rear later on.
borv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 01:49 PM   #4
Stage 4
Crashton's Gallery
 
Crashton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooterville Ohio USA
Posts: 4,787
From what I have seen I would recommend an MN strut brace over the JCW. It is DIY-able. The car does not have to be lifted. Be careful tightening down the nuts. Too much torque will snap the studs on the strut.

Best bang for the buck IMHO is a rear swaybar. It being DIY-able depends on your skill level. Yes the car needs to be lifted for the install.

I buy all my MINI parts from Aaron at Outmotoring. Great guy to deal with...

NM Engineering mini cooper clubman upper stress bar

http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...n_swaybar.html
__________________
Chuck ;~)

2006 R53 HB/W BLU BRIT
1995 NOT N MG roadster
2008 R55 SKOOBY Justa Clubster

107,000 miles motored...

Last edited by Crashton; 09-05-2011 at 01:55 PM.
Crashton is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 01:49 PM   #5
Stage 3
old81's Gallery
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Louisville, Colorado
Posts: 718
Strut bar does help, a lot of folks say it is cosmetic, I believe it helps if your are somewhat aggressive in the twisties. Simple to install, as noted.

I would not mess with the front sway bar, get a 3 hole adjustable 19mm rear bar for your MINI. Install is DIY, I would suggest a lift or at least 4 jack stands if you have them.

Run your bar in the middle until you figure out how much rotation you can control in aggressive corners or if you AutoX.

Enjoy... Don
__________________
Don Suiter - President MINI5280
07 MCSa DS/W - R56 RMW Tune - V. 2.25, UJ/Dragon package - Mods (yes)
11 Countryman S ALL4 Oxford Green/White - Born 11/8/2010 Status: Delivered 01/05/2011!
Picasa Photos
old81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2011, 01:58 PM   #6
Stage 4
Crashton's Gallery
 
Crashton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooterville Ohio USA
Posts: 4,787
I'm sure the strut bar helps some, how much is up for debate. Bang for the buck a RSB is the place to start. I have a 19mm & wish I'd gone with a 22mm.
old81 likes this.
__________________
Chuck ;~)

2006 R53 HB/W BLU BRIT
1995 NOT N MG roadster
2008 R55 SKOOBY Justa Clubster

107,000 miles motored...
Crashton is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2011, 11:20 PM   #7
Motoring Alliance Founding Sponsor
Way Motor Works's Gallery
 
Way Motor Works's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 816
The front strut tower brace is really an easy DIY, if you can't do that don't consider other work on your car. I suggest the new NM brace for the 2011, it has been changed slightly for the 2011.
__________________
Way Motor Works is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2012, 08:01 PM   #8
Stage 1
BRG_Paul's Gallery
 
BRG_Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: York, PA
Posts: 168
I picked up a Strut tower brace this weekend from another owner.
Two questions:
1. I don't want to snap the stud. What is the appropriate torque for the nuts?

2. It looks as though the thickness of the bracket on the brace will cause the nut not to have full thread engagement. I was considering switching to a different nut that did not have the captive flange and just use a thinner steel washer. Anyone have a comment in this?
BRG_Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2012, 08:42 PM   #9
Stage 4
Crashton's Gallery
 
Crashton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooterville Ohio USA
Posts: 4,787
The NM strut bar comes with different bolts so you get proper engagement. Maybe you did not get those from the seller.
__________________
Chuck ;~)

2006 R53 HB/W BLU BRIT
1995 NOT N MG roadster
2008 R55 SKOOBY Justa Clubster

107,000 miles motored...
Crashton is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Link
Register now to remove this ad
Old 02-15-2012, 09:40 PM   #10
Stage 1
BRG_Paul's Gallery
 
BRG_Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: York, PA
Posts: 168
Correct I did not get any fasteners. My towers have threaded "studs" with nuts on top. Are the studs removable? I should have mentioned my car is an R56.
BRG_Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bar, brace or sway, installation, strut

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:01 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO
Clubs, Garage Plus, Vendor Tools vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.


Motoring Alliance is an independently operated web site supporting MINI owners and enthusiasts worldwide. All original artwork and design is Copyright © 2009 - 2012 Motoring Alliance.