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08-27-2009, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmer Lite
Now all I need are 10 million other things  , like a roll-bar, proper seats, proper harnesses, a HANS and a freaking oil cooler!
- Marc | Haha I know what you mean 10k and a month off work could go a long way...
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08-27-2009, 03:36 PM
| | | | FWIW, I have found that in certain corners on certain tracks (e.g. turns 8 and 9 at Texas World), my car likes a different line then bigger, heavier cars (even the Cooper S, believe it or not). At TWS, I could close 2-3 car lengths on a Cooper S by taking 'my' line, which was significantly quicker. It's just what I needed after the back straight, in order to close up the gap where the S's walked me - taking 7 flat out also helped, but maintaining that momentum through 8 and 9 with a slightly different line closed it down... | 
08-27-2009, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by scott@txwerks FWIW, I have found that in certain corners on certain tracks (e.g. turns 8 and 9 at Texas World), my car likes a different line then bigger, heavier cars (even the Cooper S, believe it or not). At TWS, I could close 2-3 car lengths on a Cooper S by taking 'my' line, which was significantly quicker. It's just what I needed after the back straight, in order to close up the gap where the S's walked me - taking 7 flat out also helped, but maintaining that momentum through 8 and 9 with a slightly different line closed it down... | I hear ya. I have had similar experiences at Steets of Willow and Cal Speed Way. In some of the tighter turns I would drive a different line which would allow me to close significant gaps, or straight up pass. It always would amuse me when the people I did pass would later insist that I was taking a "wrong" line.
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08-27-2009, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryephile FWIW, the springs that come with BC, Megan, and Cross are only good for one location, the circular bin. Swift, KW Race, Eibach race, and Hyperco are "for real" good springs. | Agreed. We put Swifts on our Cross and it was a very noticable difference
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08-27-2009, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Batrugger Agreed. We put Swifts on our Cross and it was a very noticable difference  | I actually got my spring choice from you (10/8) - but you are running different sway bars at both ends.
Did the dynamics of the car change dramatically going from the 8/7 to 10/8 ?
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08-27-2009, 04:13 PM
| | | | P.S. Onasled, I hate that you have that sweet setup for cornerbalancing... And here, we've been doing it the old fashioned way for so long that we're stupidly sticking to it! :P | 
08-27-2009, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by scott@txwerks FWIW, I have found that in certain corners on certain tracks (e.g. turns 8 and 9 at Texas World), my car likes a different line then bigger, heavier cars (even the Cooper S, believe it or not). At TWS, I could close 2-3 car lengths on a Cooper S by taking 'my' line, which was significantly quicker. It's just what I needed after the back straight, in order to close up the gap where the S's walked me - taking 7 flat out also helped, but maintaining that momentum through 8 and 9 with a slightly different line closed it down... | Scott,
Which vehicle are you talking about? Confusing by saying that the Cooper S uses a different line and is heavier)
I forgot who it is at TXS, but I know someone has an E30 there. I can see that being lighter than a R5X platform.
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08-27-2009, 06:22 PM
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| | Scott rocks an E30. Not sure how much his weighs though.
Oh, I'll 2nd the jealousy for Onasled's corner balancing plates! He should CNC some up and sell 'em. | 
08-27-2009, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scott@txwerks FWIW, I have found that in certain corners on certain tracks (e.g. turns 8 and 9 at Texas World), my car likes a different line then bigger, heavier cars (even the Cooper S, believe it or not). At TWS, I could close 2-3 car lengths on a Cooper S by taking 'my' line, which was significantly quicker. It's just what I needed after the back straight, in order to close up the gap where the S's walked me - taking 7 flat out also helped, but maintaining that momentum through 8 and 9 with a slightly different line closed it down... | Yep- turn 5 at lightning is a tight, blind uphiller that if you're in a rwd car, you don't want to be too far in the gas cresting the hill. I could take a different line there and also mash the gas earlier.
The "bulb" was similar because I could brake a lot later, let the banking catch me, and dive in sooner. I'd travel a shorter distance and keep all of the speed because the car wouldn't push at all. Getting to full throttle a second before the m3 means you can catch it much easier.
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08-27-2009, 08:08 PM
| | | Is fun the same meaning as the borderline scary feel on a fast roller coaster?  HA HA HA
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