1st Gen R53 Cooper S Finally, Gen1 Power Steering Delete Kit Available Soon!!!!!

Discussion in '1st Generation: 2002–06 R50, R53 & 2004–08 R52' started by minsanity, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. ScottinBend

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  2. Dave.0

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    You dork :lol: I was talking about the part not the world in general. You don't even want me to start my list of things I don't like. :mad2::ihih::lol:
     
  3. minsanity

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    PM'd you, Nate. I brought this up w/ Carlos. Told him that MA should be on top of their list should Condor decide to become a supporting vendor.:Thumbsup:
     
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    If Dave.0 likes it it's got to be good. Because he's like "Mikey" he hates everything. So we're all waiting on you Dave.
     
  5. UKCoopeR

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    I have overheated the power steering on the track mid turn before, color me interested lol
     
  6. Alan

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    Yes, mine went intermittent during several sessions before failing completely. I drove two complete sessions without the PS. It was doable, but I'm sure arm-pump was just around the corner.....

    Interested
     
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    The intermittent part of the failure was the worst as it was cutting out randomly then coming back, makes it harder to drive smoothly for sure.
     
  8. minsanity

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    W/ a failed pump in, yes, it was drivable but definitely not ideal. Resistance was too much for me.
     
  9. Apex

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    I am certainly interested in this as well! I have always enjoyed the manual steering in other cars I have driven, and if this prevents a known failure point that is a sweet bonus.
     
  10. RallyMini370

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    I drove for 3 months with no PS and didn't notice much once on the road. The only concern is the strain on the U/J . Because with the PS working the U/J are less stressed. I say that because in that 3 month period I buggered the lower U/J bearings which is not helped by 80% lock up LSD. Mini gave me a new PS with no issues so far. I'd love to see a test report on this conversion
     
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    I'm curious. How does boosted or non-boosted steering make a difference on the U/J stress? All the angles and forces are the same. It makes it easier to turn the wheel.
     
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    Well I would figure turning the wheel at slow speeds without a PS puts a lot force on the U/J's before the rack, try it to see how force you need to turn the wheels lock to lock. With PS you turn the wheel and the steering sensor kicks in the PS pump making the rack do the work. I know I was fighting with the LSD until I got the PS pump working. Maybe my U/J was on the way out?
     
  13. minsanity

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    The pump reduces forces necessary to steer. The. U/J's position is pre-rack/pump. W/o power assist, the U/J is subjected to more stress.
    If the U/J's position were post-pump or point of assist, stresses it is exposed to w/ or w/o pump would be equal.
    I've asked Carlos about this & he says from experience, the U/Js can handle it w/ no problems. This, we'll have to see. It's a purely mechanical part w/ lesser risks & should it fail, it'll be gradual. Who knows, if the need arises, an improved U/J might be up for development?
    Just coz our cars are old doesn't mean we gotta stop coming up w/ better alternative fixes.....:)
     
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    1 thing for sure, the U/J will be better off w/ a proper delete kit than w/ a dead pump.
     
  15. RallyMini370

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    I would agree there that the delete kit would help than running with a dead PS pump. I think my U/J where under attack from me fighting with the LSD. Without the PS I had to really apply some effort to steer around the tight bends, with the PS I don't feel the LSD . A U/J upgrade for sure would be something to think about.

    Keep the improvements coming
     
  16. Dave.0

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    Ok what the hell does U/J stand for? Don't say Union Jack :rolleyes:
     
  17. TheModFather

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    U Joint... Like on a drive shaft or solid axle...
     
  18. Dave.0

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    Thanks, that what I was thinking bit just wanted to be sure. :Thumbsup:

    Carry on and let me know when I can buy one.
     
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    Definition 2: Urban Dictionary: UJ
     
  20. minsanity

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    A bit of an update from Condor: They're on 2nd round of testing.
     

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