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  1. minirab

    minirab Well-Known Member

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    Why doesn't he just go away. Never did like him.
     
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    So he is comparing a sport where you have 50 bike riders jammed packed together that carry their times between stages in a race (hence the reason for the yellow jersey) to a "sport" where we have a season of 20 or so races where the top two or three cars runs away and wins by huge margins. Then take away the ability for the others to catch up by limiting what they can do to improve the performance of their cars. Then, just to make things more ludicrous, if your equipment fails and you need to replace any part of it, you get penalized by moving you back in the starting grid by "30 positions" in a field of 20 cars. :crazy:
     
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    I really respected Jean Todt as a rally co-driver. But it seems that since he was put into the head end position with the FIA his brain has gotten quite soft.
     
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    Many, many moons ago.
     
  5. Steve

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    Sainz's Renault switch agreed as McLaren deal looms (motorsport.com)
    Full article: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sainz-renault-switch-str-mclaren-honda-951146/
     
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    Poor Joylon Palmer.......

    And Kvyiat has to be breathing a sigh of relief, now he's the #1 driver on that team again. I thought he was done the end of this season.....

    And that means Alonso will stay with Big Mac......

    So the grid is mostly set for next year, Sauber will probably get a couple of Ferrari up and comers, and Toro Rosso will pull another of it's junior drivers up to the big leagues.
     
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    I just read a great analysis of the "oil burning". It is not really oil burning as we would think of it. Merc figured out from the start of the turbo engine spec that they could get additives into the combustion mix to reduce knock and raise boost. These additives are not allowed in the fuel. By having a map, that uses a valve that controls the amount of crank case vented oil gets introduced into the air box, they can get these additives into the combustion chamber when they need them. This is how Merc is always getting on poll. They can't do it all the time because they'd use up the oil. Ferrari has just introduced it this year. But does not have the experience Merc does.

    So the FIA wants to clamp down on this by limiting the amount of oil usage. That's stupid. They can more easily control it by making sure the additives are not in the oil.
     
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    Remove the Marvel Mystery Oil you say? :D

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  10. Steve

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    I wondered what the oil burning thing was about but haven't taken the time to read any of the stories. Wouldn't have thought of the additives trick...
     
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    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We3Zo6iR-2g"]Remembering The Notorious 'Singapore Sling' Chicane | F1 Vault - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    One more domino falls.

    McLaren and Honda agree to end partnership (motorsport.com)
    Full article: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mclaren-honda-end-engine-partnership-952183/
     
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    You hit it on the head. Back when I sold car parts I sold the stuff but not the kit. When people were burning a lot of oil adding the stuff to the crank case cause seals to swell and stop the burning temporarily. I did tell them it was a band aid not a solution to the real problem.
     
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    T-wing? I think they need a new name for this one.

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    And apparently it goes with whatever this is.

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    30 winglets per side.

    Interviews today are funny as heck. The drivers all know whats going on but can't talk yet. Hearing them talk around it is the making of politicians.
     
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    Wait, is something going on? :skep:

    Why am I still clinging to the hope that Honda will right the ship? I think I would normally be as fed up as Alonso must be by now but I'm still hoping they'll turn it around.

    It would be hilarious to watch Toro Rosso-Honda outgunning Red Bull/"Tag Heuer" in 2018...yeah, I know it won't happen. But Honda seem stubborn enough to keep trying and you never know. If they do manage to make a competitive engine I wouldn't be surprised if it's just in time for Red Bull to take advantage in 2019 (looks like their Renault supply will dry up at the end of the 2018 season).
     
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    Qualifying highlights:

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSkMBM3P7i8"]2017 Singapore Grand Prix: Qualifying Highlights - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    #860 Zapski, Sep 16, 2017
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    The first blade pulls the air close to the skin of the car. The second blade lifts and holds it. The third blade severs the air's connection to the car leaving a smooth flow of air over the skin, for a shave that lasts all day.
     

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