Motoring Alliance :: MINI Cooper Forums   Motoring Alliance :: MINI Cooper Forums Motoring Alliance :: MINI Cooper Forums
Home

Menu




Notices

Sponsor

» Random Garage
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
SINGE

ADD KKD

» Ad Links
» Recent Threads
Go to first new post MINI/Mini Trailers
140 Replies, 40,057 Views
Go to first new post Word Association
72,680 Replies, 1,518,209 Views
Go to first new post What did you do with your MINI today?
14,651 Replies, 949,095 Views
Go to first new post Intermittent Red Oil Light
13 Replies, 32,909 Views
Go to first new post Refreshing Rufus - 2005 MCS JCW
140 Replies, 18,497 Views
Go to first new post F1 Videos
266 Replies, 77,513 Views
Go to first new post 2017 - F1
969 Replies, 107,960 Views
Go to first new post Soooooo Whatcha Eating?
1,641 Replies, 117,633 Views
Go to first new post Rally Videos
348 Replies, 85,420 Views
Go to first new post Antifreeze
11 Replies, 17,289 Views
Go to first new post IMSA 2017
298 Replies, 45,981 Views
Advert

» Ad
Sponsors

Likes Likes:  14
Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 03-05-2017, 07:54 PM #1
The_R1_Kid The_R1_Kid is offline
Stage 0 - Stock
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Salem, OR
Posts: 7
Likes (Given): 0
Likes (Received): 3
The_R1_Kid The_R1_Kid is offline
Stage 0 - Stock
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Salem, OR
Posts: 7
Likes (Given): 0
Likes (Received): 3
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods

Hi all,
About 3 years ago I was installing a new clutch and replacing all the typical wear items on my R53. While waiting on parts that I forgot to order, I designed and made a bolt on kit, so I could refill the supercharger with oil without removing it from the car.

Click the image to open in full size.

The center of the kit is a machined billet aluminum plug that replaces the PTO and nose OEM Drain/fill plug on the supercharger.

Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.
Click the image to open in full size.

There are drain and fill tubes that run from the nipples to the bottom of the car. One to drain off excess oil and a second tube that runs up to the radiator cowl area to fill.

Click the image to open in full size.

All you have to do is fill a syringe with the correct amount of GM Eaton supercharger oil and inject it into the fill tube with the drain tube capped. Once filled you take the cap off the drain tube allowing excess oil to drain off. Then you are done and the supercharger has a safe level of oil again.

Click the image to open in full size.

Simple, and with no tools, I top it off every 3rd oil change. My mini has 178k miles on it, 150k miles with an M7 overdriven pulley and its running great quiet and no issues.

In an effort to earn some side money to help pay for the restoration of my 1976 Mini, I made a little square space site and put this together into a kit.

If your interested in trying out the kit its for sale at

www.MBKperformance.com

I would love to answer any questions or hear any feedback. It's been working great on my mini for the last 3 years.

Click the image to open in full size.

I've received some good questions, and thought it would be good to share to better explain the kit:

1) How do I remove the old oil? How is the correct oil level attained and not over filled?

A) The old oil doesn't need to be removed. It is supposed to be a sealed lifetime oil, thus no reason to remove any of the old oil remaining in the sump. The supercharger PTO is only two gears splashing around in a 1 inch deep pool of oil. The only thing that matters is that there is oil PRESENT. The oil level is self regulating when you fill it.

B) With the kit you inject the appropriate amount (or more if you want, it's doesn't really matter) of oil into the upper fill line with the drain line capped. Once injected you remove the drain cap and let the excess drain away. The gear box now has the correct amount of oil in it. There is no possible way to over fill, as long as the drain line cap is removed and the line is drained.


2) What about the tubing, do I need to remove them each time refill?

A) The tubing is very robust it's temperature range is -100° - +500° F. The same tubing has been installed on my R53 MINI S for 3 years with no issues. It's just as pliable and soft as new.

B) The tubing stays in place to allow you to top off the supercharger whenever you would like. The fluid in the supercharger cant physically drain below the fill plug, so there will never be a fluid loss below the appropriate full point.


3) Is there a video of the process?

A) A video could be done, but it's simply injecting the oil into the supercharger, essentially over filling it (very boring to watch!). Then removing the cap on the drain tube. The oil drains to the correct max fill point with no fuss. Fin

4) How did the original oil disappear or the oil level go down?

A) The shaft of the input gear that turns the PTO gear box is part of the lobes of the supercharger. On the shaft is a seal to seal the High vacuum environment of the supercharger compressor from the PTO gear box. As that seal wears the vacuum is able to slowly over time draw oil past that seal, and it's burned in the engine. Eventually resulting in an empty or low oil level in the PTO gear box or nose of the super charger. This results in excess wear on the gears and bearings of the supercharger, eventually leading to a failure and stoppage of the water pump which is driven by the PTO gear box.
__________________
2005 MCS with LSD
1976 Mini City 1000
Megan Rear control arms, TSW springs, Webb Motorsports Camber Plates, ALTA PSRS, HAI, M7 16%, Engine Dampener, Helix Short Shifter,
RSPEED Rear Sway Bar


Last edited by The_R1_Kid; 04-02-2017 at 09:14 PM.
The_R1_Kid is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 3 Likes
Likes wmwny, Gil-galad, mrntd liked this post
Unread 03-06-2017, 12:22 AM #2
wmwny wmwny is offline
Stage 4
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Piqua, Ohio
Posts: 2,990
Likes (Given): 933
Likes (Received): 1678
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Send a message via Yahoo to wmwny
wmwny wmwny is offline
Stage 4
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Piqua, Ohio
Posts: 2,990
Likes (Given): 933
Likes (Received): 1678
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Send a message via Yahoo to wmwny
Welcome to M/A!

Nice, informative post! We Gen 1 MCS owners appreciate these things!
wmwny is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Unread 03-06-2017, 02:42 AM #3
drabdub's Avatar
drabdub drabdub is offline
Stage 4
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,035
Likes (Given): 47
Likes (Received): 129
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
drabdub drabdub is offline
Stage 4

drabdub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,035
Likes (Given): 47
Likes (Received): 129
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
interesting. do you have the link to get one?
__________________
drabdub is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Unread 03-06-2017, 06:55 AM #4
Metalman's Avatar
Metalman Metalman is offline
Stage 6
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 12,501
Likes (Given): 4
Likes (Received): 8896
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Metalman Metalman is offline
Stage 6

Metalman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 12,501
Likes (Given): 4
Likes (Received): 8896
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Quote:
Originally Posted by drabdub View Post
interesting. do you have the link to get one?
I don't have a R53, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn once....


"If your interested in trying out the kit its for sale at
MBKperformance.com"
__________________
Fungo Squiggly - 2009 Factory John Cooper Works Shooting Brake - Born May 22 2009

Sitting in the third stall down, keeping extremely quiet while getting my M/A forum updates, and hoping management won't find me until after payday.
Metalman is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Unread 03-06-2017, 10:47 AM #5
Gil-galad's Avatar
Gil-galad Gil-galad is offline
Stage 4
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Decorah, IA
Posts: 1,126
Likes (Given): 891
Likes (Received): 726
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Gil-galad Gil-galad is offline
Stage 4
Gil-galad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Decorah, IA
Posts: 1,126
Likes (Given): 891
Likes (Received): 726
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Seems like something that should have been thought of long ago...
__________________
GWAIHIR - 2013 R59 / STYBBA - 1977 Mini MK-IV --- with Eastern Iowa MINIs
Gil-galad is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Unread 03-06-2017, 12:50 PM #6
Crashton's Avatar
Crashton Crashton is online now
Stage 6
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooterville Ohio USA
Posts: 17,738
Likes (Given): 9598
Likes (Received): 9795
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Crashton Crashton is online now
Stage 6

Crashton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooterville Ohio USA
Posts: 17,738
Likes (Given): 9598
Likes (Received): 9795
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Welcome to a new forum sponsor.
__________________
2013 Golf GTI Shultz with clean burn gas engine!
1995 Roadster NOT N MG
2008 R55 SKOOBY Justa Clubster

"If you can't go fast with 90hp, 900hp won't help you...."
Crashton is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Unread 03-06-2017, 01:51 PM #7
drabdub's Avatar
drabdub drabdub is offline
Stage 4
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,035
Likes (Given): 47
Likes (Received): 129
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
drabdub drabdub is offline
Stage 4

drabdub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,035
Likes (Given): 47
Likes (Received): 129
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalman View Post
I don't have a R53, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn once....


"If your interested in trying out the kit its for sale at
MBKperformance.com"
i know it was a hard day at work yesterday but i cant believe i missed that
__________________
drabdub is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Unread 03-06-2017, 04:05 PM #8
Metalman's Avatar
Metalman Metalman is offline
Stage 6
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 12,501
Likes (Given): 4
Likes (Received): 8896
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Metalman Metalman is offline
Stage 6

Metalman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 12,501
Likes (Given): 4
Likes (Received): 8896
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Quote:
Originally Posted by drabdub View Post
i know it was a hard day at work yesterday but i cant believe i missed that
No problem.... We're here for you....
__________________
Fungo Squiggly - 2009 Factory John Cooper Works Shooting Brake - Born May 22 2009

Sitting in the third stall down, keeping extremely quiet while getting my M/A forum updates, and hoping management won't find me until after payday.
Metalman is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Unread 03-06-2017, 04:42 PM #9
Dave.0's Avatar
Dave.0 Dave.0 is offline
Helix & RMW Powered
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Burbs of Philly, PA
Posts: 21,090
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Dave.0 Dave.0 is offline
Helix & RMW Powered

Dave.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Burbs of Philly, PA
Posts: 21,090
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
This is not needed just like a belt tensioner stop.

The bearings and gears either fail or they don't. No amount of changing the oil in the SC will help if they are set incorrectly which is what causes them to fail in the end.

I am still on the same 12 year old SC and Oil for 100K now with no issues with a 15% pulley. Also have a new SC on the shelf for when the Original fails.
__________________



Esoteric Detailing Supplies http://www.esotericcarcare.com/

05 MINI JCW "The Mistress"
RMW Powered, Helix built w/ Meth
Helix: http://store.helix13.com
Greene Performance https://www.greeneperformance.com/co...formance-parts
RMW: http://www.revolutionmini.com
Dave.0 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Canusrufis liked this post
Unread 03-06-2017, 05:06 PM #10
Crashton's Avatar
Crashton Crashton is online now
Stage 6
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooterville Ohio USA
Posts: 17,738
Likes (Given): 9598
Likes (Received): 9795
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Crashton Crashton is online now
Stage 6

Crashton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Hooterville Ohio USA
Posts: 17,738
Likes (Given): 9598
Likes (Received): 9795
Machined a low cost bolt on kit to refill the supercharger oil w/o removal or mods
Oh no Dave, you have jinxed yourself.
__________________
2013 Golf GTI Shultz with clean burn gas engine!
1995 Roadster NOT N MG
2008 R55 SKOOBY Justa Clubster

"If you can't go fast with 90hp, 900hp won't help you...."
Crashton is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes MCS02, Dave.0 liked this post
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
drain, kit, oil, supercharger, tube

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:41 PM.

Powered by vBulletin; Version - A Very Customized 3.8.2
Copyright ©2009 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Clubs, Garage Plus, Vendor Tools vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.4.1 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Motoring Alliance is an independently operated web site supporting MINI owners and enthusiasts worldwide. All original artwork and design is Copyright © 2009 - 2016 Motoring Alliance.
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO