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New here, dreaded P1497 code.

Im getting the P1497 code, downstream air leak. Rough idle and no power/boost like before.

2009 Mini cooper turbo S 6speed

What I have done and what is done.

New timing chain/tensioner ect from dealership ( yay 3600 gone. )
New valve cover

Have sprayed starting fluid all around the valve cover/clamps from turbo to throttle body, no response from motor. I cannot hear any vacuum leaks.

What I did recently that brought up the issue.

The tube on the water pump was cracked so i had to remove the intake manifold to replace it, when I put the manifold back on with brand new gaskets i made sure everything was clamped down and tight. Started the car and instantly started idling rough and throwing the code. Car ran perfectly for months before I did this.

I searched on this forum and came across a thread where the guys injector was missing the Teflon seal, maybe this is a possible issue but wouldn't see why it would throw that code. I didn't mess with any of that.

Id rather not take it to mini to get charged 260 for them to tell me it was something simple.

Help!!!!

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Welcome to MA! I would go back through every thing you took off and make sure you did not miss anything or have something out of place. If I had a dime for every time something like this has happened to me just to find I put something together wrong of something got caught in the wrong place when I put it back together I would be rich.
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New here, dreaded P1497 code.
Do a smoke test. If you do a search for "Smoke test car" on YouTube, you will see a few videos on how to build a cheap smoke tester to find vacuum leaks.
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Welcome to MA! I would go back through every thing you took off and make sure you did not miss anything or have something out of place. If I had a dime for every time something like this has happened to me just to find I put something together wrong of something got caught in the wrong place when I put it back together I would be rich.
Good advice, although I guess I forgot to mention that I have done this 3 times now, the 3'rd time was to put on new intake gaskets, I can practically take it all apart and put it back together with my eyes closed in under 20 minutes.
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New here, dreaded P1497 code.
MAF sensor connected? The symptoms you're describing match what will happen with an unplugged MAF. Ask me how I know...
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New here, dreaded P1497 code.
Downstream air leak means air loss someplace between turbo and throttle body. Since you've been playing with the manifold, it's likely a bad connection or defective hose --- the elbow at the manifold. The hose clamp needs to be mounted squarely with respect to the manifold. Could also be a cracked manifold --- they're not the best material. Best bet has already been suggested --- smoke test.
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MAF sensor connected? The symptoms you're describing match what will happen with an unplugged MAF. Ask me how I know...
When i unplugged the MAF it actually threw a bunch of different codes, so thats definitely not it.

Looks like ill be building some kind of smoke machine and going from there.
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So, cleaned the maf, that didn't do anything. Sprayed a whole can of brake cleaner, that didn't do anything. Tried the smoke test, that didn't do anything, no leaks at all.

My friend works at a dealership and put a scanner on the car and this is the only thing that pops up.

http://imgur.com/a/qUHkX

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Yes - I'm somewhat new to MINIs but that error code after you did a smoke test tells me the sensor maybe bad. Do you have someone close that you can pull their maf and put it on yours to test?

What did your dealer tech buddy say?
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