Engine Drivetrain 2nd Gen S 2nd Cat Delete

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  1. MDL8440

    MDL8440 New Member

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    So I was considering getting my second catalytic converter removed and replaced with a straight pipe as it is not monitored and is not on the JCW exhaust setup that comes from the factory. I believe it is only shipped with it to meet CARB standards and since Texas does not adhere to those standards it seems a bit useless. I was originally considering the removing the restrictor but I have heard that the interior noice might make things rattle after a while.

    Has anyone on here done this or heard anyone's vehicle with this modification. I'm really just looking to do something cheap that will imrove the sound and maybe give it a little bump in performance if I can. Thanks for any feedback.

    I have a 2007 R56 S by the way.
     
  2. k-huevo

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    It depends on what you consider an improvement in sound. Without a resonator higher frequency notes become apparent; they are the main cause of rpm specific resonance and impart a tinny quality to the exhaust note. Rather than a straight pipe, I would recommend the JCW section with the long resonator, RealOEM.com * BMW R56 Coop.S JCW CATALYTIC CONVERTER/FRONT SILENCER, slightly less back pressure and clips the high frequencies.
     
  3. btwdriver

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    I have run my car with the second cat, without the second cat and also without any cats. I have to say that I didn't notice that the sound was annoying with the second cat removed. It does however get VERY loud without a downpipe cat. In all cases I have left the resonator on.

    Keith, you seem to be talking about the resonator, I believe the OP is referring to just removing the cat.

    I have seen that many people are happy with the JCW exhaust, I just don't have any personal experience with it.

    I will also say that you will not notice any performance increase by removing the cat. You might think you do, because the car will be louder, but I doubt there is any actual increase.
     
  4. k-huevo

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    Yes, I now see at as only the post-cat and not the entire section. I'm familiar with the JCW exhaust and like its sound more than any other, aftermarket or the stock exhaust. I know its lower tone is due to the longer resonator. There's a good chance I'll be installing the JCW in a customer's car soon, and reports from others who've made the switch sound like this MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring - Seeking suggestions regarding my R56 JCW stage 1 exhaust
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  5. Thumper460

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    Justa NOTE. It is a FEDERAL Law on the emissions!! IF you remove the cats , you ARE in violation of Federal Law.

    But hey that must be cool... as the Feds dont know the meaning of the word "Illegal" either!! LOL

    Just me........................................

    Thumper
     
  6. Metalman

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    Thumper.........
    You are correct for the street.
    But, off the public streets (off road), such as race tracks etc., I believe there is an exemption. Correct???
     
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    Race tracks are not public roads, so none of the rules apply. On the track you play by big boy rules. :)
     
  8. Thumper460

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    Yes.. there must be NO Tags and the Car has to be regerstered as an OFF ROAD Only!!

    but as said... who cares, and no one checks anyways!! LOL

    Thumper
     
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  11. AliceCooper

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    Be kind to our environment, leave the cat on.
     
  12. Thumper460

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    LOL... it IS the LAW!! any where here in the US!!

    Thumper
     
  13. Davidoyo

    Davidoyo New Member

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    Before I got my custom 2.5" magnaflow exhaust I had my 2nd cat and resonator removed. If you just get the 2nd cat removed it probably won't be noticeably louder, but a little more free flowing. If you also get the resonator removed it will be a little louder/raspier past 2.8 rpm on up depending on how hard you accelerate. I liked it and pretty much had zero problems with drone. Also, I could care less about CARB rules and my state does not abide by them anyway. I mean I already have one cat and I don't need another.
     
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