Brake Check Karma?

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  1. BruceK

    BruceK Active Member

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    There's a (wild) video about the consequences of tailgating and brake checking over at Jalopnik today. Have a look:

    Why You Never, Ever Brake Check Another Driver

    Rather than join the discussion there with those heathens, I thought I'd bring up the subject here with the MINI faithful. :wink:

    So, whadda think? I don't condone brake checking, but we are supposed to be following at a safe distance all the time - which effectively disarms a brake check. And, on the other side of the coin, we are all supposed to get our butts the hell out of the left lane except for when passing.

    If you were an officer, who would you cite?
     
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    Yikes! Definitely not worth the check or tailgate!
     
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    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSE3fkeHAmo"]Tailgater gets brake checked and then crashes - YouTube[/ame]
     
  4. BruceK

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    I'm kinda amazed how badly that Chevy SUV handled (and how bad the driver was). No stability control on it?
     
  5. Minidave

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    Brake checking really pisses me off, all it does is endanger both drivers.....
     
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    I've never brake checked any one because I don't like the idea of getting hit in the rear but I have turned my headlight (tail light) switch on a few times.
     
  7. MCS02

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    No reason to tailgate! Yea the guy should move over if he can. Though not condoning the brake checker. I don't feel sorry for the tailgater!
    I always move over that's just the polite thing to do. But when I can't move and someone tailgates me I will slowly slow down.
     
  8. Crashton

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    Anyone who brake checks someone else is as stupid as the tailgater maybe more so. I hate being tailgated, but would never resort to brake checking someone. Ain't worth the possible consequences. Move right & let them pass no reason to be traveling in the left lane unless you are passing someone. Justa my .02.....
     
  9. BlimeyCabrio

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    Zero sympathy for tailgaters in any circumstances. Zero.
     
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    I always wonder why people get so pissed by tailgaters - as long as they don't hit you, what's the problem? Why get pissed? Just wait for your opportunity, move over and let them go by.....
     
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    They get pissed because if something unexpected should happen in front of them (pedestrian, car, bicyclists, etc) and they have to make a panic stop they're sure to get nailed in the rear. That's why people hate tailgaters.
     
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    ^THIS

    Tailgaters endanger EVERYONE around them on the road, by eliminating their reaction time. Because unexpected things happen, frequently.
     
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    Except that's not when people get pissed, they get pissed when they're driving down the highway, where there are no pedestrians, no bicyclists, no sudden stop lights or anything else......not the reason.

    I think people find it a violation of their personal space......that's my theory.
     
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    So, because they're worried they might have to make a sudden panic stop, they just go ahead and do one anyway?

    I don't think so.....
     
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    I have zero sympathy for that tailgater & tailgaters in general. I still believe the brake checker is at least as bad as the tailgater. There was room to move right & let the bozo past rather than try to play king of the road I'll show you. The guy causes a wreck & doesn't stop just drives on.
     
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    no doubt laughing his a** off. What was the moral to this story again?
     
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    DONT TAILGATE! :D
     
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    I didn't defend the brake checker, and I don't apply that tactic. But if you tailgate, I despise you, because you are a menace to my safety and your own. No amount of rationalization will make me OK with your tailgating. You can't control what other people do on the road, but you CAN control your following distance, and you are responsible for it. Three second rule is one of the first things they teach in driver's ed (or used to be) for a reason. You need reaction time. Most of you have families who depend on you staying safe, alive, and employed. Not allowing enough following distance, anywhere except on the racetrack, is just stupid. This includes at MOTD. One groundhog runs out at the wrong time, and 12 MINIs pile up on The Dragon. Having hit a groundhog at MOTD, I know that this can happen.

    There. I think you may know how I feel about it now. :cornut:
     
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    If there's nothing else around, including other cars, then there's no reason the tailgater can't choose another lane to accomplish their pass, right? And if they can't do this... then there are other cars around being endangered by the tailgating.

    I agree the slower driver should move over. This is my #2 pet peeve, after tailgating. :biggrin5:

    But, unless you're headed to the hospital with your flashers on, no one truly has a justification to be in a big enough hurry to be a menace on the road and an azzhat to other humans. Take a deep breath and slow down. Traffic will clear eventually. It always does. Then you can return to driving at reckless speeds, like me. :devil:
     
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    Yea I can't stand people who wont move over. Driving in the left lane is not the best place to be, you have a much bigger blind spot on the right side of your car. Where I live it seems people take joy in driving slow in the left lane. I still do not tailgate. As I said before in traffic if I can not get out of the way and I get tailgated I will gradually slow down. The reason is I want more room in front of me so I can stop slower if something happens. Yes it pisses the tailgater off but I don't care. I don't want to be run over!
     

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