Engine Drivetrain 1st Gen Cooper S Cooling Fan Low Speed Always On

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  1. jeffster06

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    Today I replaced the fan assembly for a friend because her low speed resistor was burnt out. Once I got everything back together I start the car to find that the low speed fan runs all the time. I tried swapping fan relays (hi and low speed) and the fan stays on. Removing the relay the fan turns off (expected) what would cause the low speed to stay on all the time? Also the ac was off when I started the car.
     
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    False alarm, car sat for a few hours and now it's working right... I'll take it lol.
     
  3. CHKMINI

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    How long did it take you to replace the fan? I'm looking at the DT low fan resistor that Chad sells and trying to make the decision whether to do it myself or have it done.
     
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    Car needs to go into service mode.
     
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    I did this prior to DT selling a kit. Pretty easy once I was able to find the parts. No service mode on mine. Was still working fine when I sold the car to purchase Silverback :Thumbsup::Thumbsup:
     
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    Jeff you are going to have to hold a workshop for us. I want to know how to do this an easier way. :yesnod:
     
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    The easier way is an external bypass resistor. The easiest of all is run a tap directly between the high and low speed lines (the low speed fan will run at high speed).
     
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    What year car was this done too? Early.........did it have the recalled PS fan/rad fan harness?
     
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    #9 Dave.0, Aug 17, 2014
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    This is what you need to do once and it's fixed forever. The real easy way.

    I did this mod years ago before M\A was even on-line and I have not had anymore fan issues.

    The fan will run low and switch to high when needed.

    You do not need to remove your fan and everything to do this mod it's just cut and use a soldering iron to make the connections.

    Here is the part from Mouser in NJ. $15.14 + shipping.
    http://ph.mouser.com/Search/m_ProductDetail.aspx?Arcol/HS100-0R33-5/&qs=/ha2pyFadujijxGS6LgfEkg1IowNcoCvsl658sK7qJwszHYUMk2NYg==


    Here are the instructions. From the NAM
    http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/3776413-post932.html
     
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    NAM link is broke.......
     
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    Damn NAM :mad2: I fixed the link. :Thumbsup:
     
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    Boy that figures.... :lol:
     
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    Thanks Dave :Thumbsup:
     
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    Sweet! I need to do this on Blake's R53. Ordering parts today.
     
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    I just did mine a month ago. Here's my contribution to that thread -- post #1125 (!). Obviously a lot of people have had the problem.

    http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/3964714-post1125.html


    As I mentioned earlier, the dead simple quick fix (takes only a few minutes) is install two taps and simply run a wire between them. When low speed is supposed to run, it will actually spin at high speed (noisier, but cooler is better, right?). Add the resistor to run like factory setup.
     
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    I did not use T-taps because they all fail over time and are not waterproof.
    They should not be used for connection outside in vehicles that will see all weather conditions. ( cold, rain, snow, ice) A little bit of water will freeze in T-tap and pop it open and cause it to fail. You won't notice it when it's 20 degrees out but you sure will overheat when Spring comes around.

    Cut, soldier and seal with M3 scotch 33+ electrical tape.
     
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    Every scotch-lock tap I have ever used has failed eventually. Don't use them anymore.
     
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    Put some silicone paste in there before you close it. Then wrap it with self vulcanizing tape. Mostly though I just solder my connections.
     
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    I always solder all my connections. It has become a habit from when I installed car alarms and remote starters. I would not have comeback failures because some cheap connector failed.

    All soldered connections equal the piece of mind that every splice has been made correctly and will not fail from any weather condition or vibration.

    I do it once and do it right because I hate troubleshooting electrical problems.
     
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    wow this really picked up, changing the whole fan assembly was kind of a pain it was not my MINI so I just did what my friend wanted. She wanted to fix it rather than band aid it, her call not mine. I ended up removing the whole radiator assembly. probably more than I needed to do but I discovered she had a leaking crank sensor while I was in there so that got fixed as well. I also found out that she had almost 100% water in her system rather than coolant this winter would have really sucked for her if I didn't find that. I also had to replace the belt tensioner and install a reduction pulley (Have I mentioned im a good friend?)

    The job took a lot longer than I wanted it to but now shes running great. I was supposed to do an oil change and replace my fuel filter this weekend as well, but after spending what felt like forever on hers I am pushing it off till next weekend. I now know why I am not a mechanic, my car would be a bucket if I was.

    oh and her MINI is an 05
     

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