DDMotorsports: Carbotech Brake Pads!

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  1. M.Bonanni

    M.Bonanni New Member

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    DoubleDownMotorsports.com is proud to announce that we are now an authorized dealer for Carbotech brake pads! Carbotech offers a wide variety of pad compounds for any style of driving!

    Applications available for all Mini Cooper, Cooper S, and Cooper S JCW!

    Compounds:

    Bobcat 1521 - Street only. Low dust, quiet operation.
    The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Like our AX™ & XP™ line of compounds, Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle, police cruiser, and has won multiple SCCA Solo 2 and Prosolo National Championships. The Bobcat 1521™ compound has been found to last two-three times longer than OE pads you can purchase at a dealership or national retailer. Bobcat 1521™ compound has also been found to extend the life of your rotors 2-3 times. That’s one of the beauties of Carbotech Ceramic brake compounds. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.

    AX6 - Autocross Compound

    The AX6â„¢ takes the place of the Panther Plusâ„¢ compound that was so successful. AX6â„¢ was specifically engineered for Autocross applications. A high torque brake compound delivering reliable and consistent performance over a very wide operating temperature range (150°F to 1250°F +). Advanced compound matrix provides an excellent initial “biteâ€, high coefficient of friction, and very progressive brake modulation and release characteristics. AX6â„¢ offers high fade resistance, rotor friendliness at all temperatures, excellent cold stopping power, and non corrosive dust. As a result, AX6â„¢ is an excellent choice for Autocross & novice track day drivers and beginner high performance driver education (HPDE) drivers on street driven cars using street tires eliminating the need to change brake pads at the track. AX6â„¢ has gained tremendous popularity with SCCA Prosolo/Solo2 competitors for its fantastic bite, release & modulation. Many drivers use the AX6â„¢ for street driving as well, even though Carbotech doesn’t recommend street driving with AX6â„¢ due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise. AX6â„¢ is NOT a race compound, and should not be used as such. AX6â„¢ shouldn’t be used by any intermediate or advanced track day drivers, and should not be used with “R†compound tires (racing tires). Cars in excess of 300hp and/or 3,000lbs should not use AX6â„¢ for any track use.

    XP8 - Beginner/Mild Track Use
    A high torque brake compound with a wide operating temperature range (200°F-1350°F+). Carbotech XP8™ is the first of our racing compounds. Outstanding initial bite at race temperatures, high coefficient of friction, excellent modulation and release characteristics. Extremely high fade resistance, very rotor friendly with 100% non-corrosive dust. Excellent as a front brake pad for lighter ITA, ITB, ITC, SRF, H4, H5, and other cars that weigh less than 2,400lbs. Perfect for novice, intermediate and advanced track day (HPDE) use with any tire, and can still be driven safely to and from the track. There are several vehicles that use XP8™ on the street, autocross, and at track day (HPDE) events. Carbotech does NOT recommended XP8™ as a daily driven street pad due to elevated levels of dust and noise. XP8™ is also a great rear brake pad for almost any race car (Spec Miata-T1/T2/CMC). XP8™ is a great compound on the front & rear of most open wheel and sports racers.

    XP10 - Intermediate/Moderate Track Use
    When Carbotech unleashed the XP10™ to the general public, and it was an instant success, gathering multiple regional, divisional, and national championships. The XP10™ is a very high initial bite friction material, with a coefficient of friction and rotor friendliness unmatched in the industry. Fade resistance is in excess of 1650°F. Due to the high level of friction and bite, this material is recommended for cars weighing around 2,000lbs or more, not including formula cars and cars with brake bias bars weighing less than 2,000lbs. This is the preferred compound for the front of Spec Miata racers, SSC,SSB, T3, SRF, ITS, ITE, H1,H2, H3, H4, 944 Cup, ST, GS, Factory Five Cobra’s and many more Grand-Am/ALMS/SCCA/NASA classes. XP10™ is also ideal for advanced/instructor level HPDE drivers. XP10™ still maintains the highly praised release and excellent modulation, rotor friendliness, and 100% non-corrosive dust that have made all Carbotech compounds so successful. XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.

    XP12 - Advanced/Heavy Track Use
    The latest iteration of the highly successful XP™ series of compounds with an extremely high initial bite, torque and fade resistance than compound XP10™. XP12™ is a world leading friction compound that is unmatched as a Ceramic racing compound, with a temperature range of 250°F to 2000°F+. The XP12™ still has that excellent Carbotech release and modulation that has made all other Carbotech compounds so successful. The XP12™ is the most rotor aggressive compound Carbotech offers, but compared to the competition the XP12™ is still very rotor friendly and contains 100% non-corrosive dust. XP12™ is recommended only for expert/very advanced drivers. XP12™ is found to be most affective on race cars weighing 2,400lbs or more using R-Compound tires; or street cars weighing 3,200lbs or more for track use only. Ideal for LMP1, LMP2, DP, T1, T2, T3, H1, H2, GT1, GT2, GT3, TC, GT, ST, GS, MX-5 Cup, etc… XP12™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.

    XP16 - Race Use Only - Most agressive compound.
    The second compound to be released this year from Carbotech. It is a step up from the highly successful XP12 compound. The XP16™ leads the highly touted XP™ series line of compounds from Carbotech. With an extremely, and we mean extremely high initial bite, torque and fade resistance than compound XP12™. XP16™ is a world leading friction compound that is unmatched as a Ceramic racing compound, with a temperature range of 250°F to 2000°F+. Carbotech XP16™ still has outstanding release and modulation that has made all other Carbotech compounds so successful. The XP16™ is the most rotor aggressive compound Carbotech makes, but compared to it's competition the XP16™ is still very rotor friendly and contains 100% non-corrosive dust. XP16™ is recommended only for expert/very advanced drivers. XP16™ is found to be most affective on race cars weighing 3,000lbs or more using R-Compound tires only. Ideal for sprint use only in classes such as T1, T2, H1, GT1, GT2, GT3, GT, GS, DP, P1, P2, etc… Not recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.

    ***Pre-bedding available from the factory on any pads!***

    Call or order online at Double Down Motorsports!
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  2. BThayer23

    BThayer23 Well-Known Member

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    What's this "pre-bedding" you speak of? I've never heard of this.
     
  3. M.Bonanni

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    When you get a new set of brake pads you are supposed to bed them in. Basically you gradually build up the heat in the pads for the first time and it results in extended pad and rotor life and increased performance. Usually you have to find a desolate road with no traffic to do acceleration and braking to bed the brakes in on the car or waste your first track session bedding in the pads. Carbotech offers pre-bedding for their pads for a small fee so you can just put them in and go. They use machines similar to this to do it...

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  4. cct1

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    But don't you have to bed them into the rotor they're going to be run on? You need to get some of the compound on the rotors too--seems like this would only take care of half the equation.

    No matter, glad to see you are carrying the Carbotech's; it's a fantastic pad--I've had great luck with it!
     
  5. M.Bonanni

    M.Bonanni New Member

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    Normally when bedding in pads and rotors you will have to heat them up, then cool them down to do it properly. You will still want to do a few hard stops on the pre-bed pads to transfer material to the rotors, but you won't have to then wait for them to cool down before they are at 100%. So you can basically bed the pads to the rotors on your warm up lap and be good to go.
     
  6. Nathan

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    Oh ahh, lets play semantics here..

    The term is "pre-burnished". Pre-burnished pads still need to be properly bedded to help assure that the pad and the rotor have an opportunity to mate correctly. The advantage is the actual bedding process is shorter.

    "Pre-bedded" would be where both the pads and rotors are brought to temp and cooled for a few cycles. These would be sold in matched sets of pads and rotors.
     
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    M.Bonanni New Member

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    Yes, so basically pre-burnished is probably a better way to describe it. :D
     
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    For my next trick I'll tackle the "grease" vs "lubricant" issue. :D
     
  9. old81

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    Not sure you want to hurt the program rating of MA with this topic. :devil: :cornut:

    Good definition for pre-burnished.

    What does this add to cost per set of pads? I run XP10/XP8 in my 07 MINI.
     
  10. M.Bonanni

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    $20/set
     
  11. cct1

    cct1 Well-Known Member
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    But I heard if you pre-burnish too much you'll go blind....
     

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