We’re just back from a F56 product briefing where MINI revealed some key facts about the highly anticipated F56. But before we go into details prose about the technology under the hood we thought we’d talk about some of the more long awaited details first. Power Horsepower: Cooper: 134 bhp (up from 121) Cooper S: […] (visit MotoringFile for the full article) More...
Does no one proofread their work anymore? They expect 0-60 times to increase with the bump in hp and significant bump in torque? We all know what they meant, but this kind of sloppy writing is epidemic in media these days, and I for one am tired of it. I can't read an Autoblog article anymore without finding a rash of errors, incorrect word usage, incorrect spelling, punctuation errors, etc. Are we just supposed to overlook this? Are the rules of good writing no longer in force? How about just writing for accuracy? It's one thing to find this sort of laziness in a casual post by a forum member, but not from people who are PAID to write.
I saw the new Mini drive underneath me yesterday while on the Overpass over the 405fwy. It was in full camo mode along with the new M4
I'm quite excited for the future of cars, especially with companies focusing on drawing as much power and efficiency from small engines, like the 1.6L that Formula 1 will be using in 2014... Always a fine moment when you floor someone in a mustang or the like with our "little" super/turbo engines :biggrin5:
Well.... Sorta.... Like the R53.... Except... Ummmm.... They made the GP2 faster than the GP1.... "Calling it the “fastest Mini ever built,†the company proudly notes that the spicy hatchback was tuned on the Nürburgring Nordschleife in Germany — which is exactly where our spy photographers spotted a camouflaged prototype back in March. The new John Cooper Works GP set a Nürburgring lap time of 8:23, which is almost 19 seconds quicker than the time set by the previous John Cooper Works GP." So, maybe the F56 with the 2 liter will be compared to the R56.... But only faster... We will have to wait and see....
Except for the fact that th F56 was beaten with an ugly stick and the R53 is a sexy beast. Big Difference.
Ummmm those race tires and coil-overs can easily make that car that much faster around the ring. Put those on the original GP and I bet the poser GP gets its lunch handed to it at the ring. Suspension and tires make a huge difference. Just because it faster does not make it better because the GP 2 is flugly. The original GP is already a classic. Oh and my R53 is better looking and faster than any 2 Gen or the new GP 2. ^^^ 100% true
"Ummmm those race tires and coil-overs can easily make that car that much faster around the ring. Put those on the original GP and I bet the poser GP gets its lunch handed to it at the ring. Suspension and tires make a huge difference." Nope.... The comparison needs to be made "as issued" from the factory... Add-on's, aftermarket heads, ECU tweeks all change the game... Gotta have an even playing field... Needs to be compared stock to stock as issued without any cheats.... Just the basic stock GP1 and GP2 the way it rolled off the assembly line.....
I'm surprised the the bigger 2L motor is only providing a small increase in power over the 1.6L. I thought they give it 200hp at least.
No disrespect, but you contradict yourself here. It WASN'T an even playing field. An even playing field would be the same tires on BOTH cars, you are totally kidding yourself if you think it's a valid comparison between the capability of two cars, especially when BMW is insinuating that the car is that much better. It's not. The only conclusion I can make is you have no idea how important tires are on a track like the 'ring. Everyone who's ever been on a track knows the biggest way to speed up your track times is to put on a stickier tire--it improves EVERYTHING--acceleration, cornering, and especially braking. The coilovers help too, but it's the tires that's making the biggest difference in lap times between two otherwise similar cars, with the same driver. If BMW REALLY wanted to show the difference between the two cars, they would have put the same shoes on, even with the coilovers, I'd go for that--but the difference wouldn't have been that great. Buy a used GP, put R-comps on it, be just as fast as a brand new R56 GP on the ring, for half the price. How about that for a comparison? BMW cheated, and they know it. Put the same tires on the R56 as the R53, and those lap times are embarrassingly close, it would have been much better for BMW to throw the same shoes on the R56 GP and show how much faster it was than the R53, than by putting something with substantially more grip on. The R56 loses too much breath up high, this car needs to be substantially faster around the ring than the R53, they made up the difference with tires. End of story.
^^^^^ Consider yourself "told", MM. Now go stand in the corner, old buddy. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Jim