Suspension Brakes 1st Gen Front Control Arm Bushing, what brand do you use?

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  1. M^Cubed

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    #1 M^Cubed, Aug 19, 2009
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    What brand front control arm bushing is everyone using these days? Vendors don't list the durometer measurements so it is a little tricky to guess what they might be like.

    From what I have seen,

    Powerflex = purple 3 piece design [ ] []=== []
    Madness = red/black 3 piece design [ ] []=== []
    BavAuto = blue 1 piece design [ ]
    Alta = aluminum 2 piece bearing design
     
  2. Nathan

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    Should we make a Poll out of this?
     
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    Nathan,

    I was thinking about it, but was unsure. The reason I decided against it was because I wanted opinions and user testimony over just how many people are using what. Technical merits and faults of the designs would be interesting.
     
  4. Nathan

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    I made the title something that might attract more people.

    I use the Alta PSRS. Why, I don't remember why I bought these over the other brands.

    Am I happy with them? Somewhat, they needed to be welded and when Alta was notified I lost all the set screws they did nothing but give me the specs on replacements. Didn't offer to send new ones, then again, I didn't ask for them either hoping they would step up and do the right thing.
     
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    Powerflex after Danny at Minicorsa (shameless plug) noticed my stockers were shot with 36k on the odometer. Nice difference. While before I was able to feel every small rock on the road that I ran over, now I am able to feel every tiny rock. This was on our tin top. I am about to go the same route on my vert as the steering is starting to get a little floppy.
     
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    Powerflex control arm bushings. Replaced stockers with them about 6 weeks back. They are great in my opinion.
     
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    I've been installing mostly Powerflex, and we have also been shipping them prepressed into the brackets to customers. Been happy with them.
     
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    Guys, where and how do you look for slop/play to tell if control arm bushings are shot?
    When tightening wheel nuts I have slop/play that allows the the wheel to rock forward on the passenger side.
     
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    If the wheel rocks back and forth like you say, I'd bet you need control arm bushings. I usually pry on the control arm and watch the bushing. If it moves pretty easy it's worn out, it should have good resistance if the bushings are good.
     
  10. M^Cubed

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    Way, have you had any experience with the BavAuto units? They are what I have been leaning towards.
     
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  12. M^Cubed

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    Nitro,

    I'm not doubting you, but just getting reassured - the MM are in fact harder than the powerflex?

    What is the deal with Energy Suspension?

    Powerflex makes a "Motor Sports" additional washer to help keep the bushing from deflecting and keep it in the cup. I think it would also work with the MM kit because they are identical in build.
     
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    You don't have to worry about stiffness with the Alta PSRS. Have had one installed for over a year now and love it. No binding to worry about. The MINI club I belong to have been installing these for about 3 years and have well over 20 installed by members with no issues.

    But as Nathan stated, you do want to make sure you tack weld the sleeve to the arm so it stays in place.
     
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    A visual inspection will reveal tears in the OEM rubber bushing; if the tear is relatively new there will be oil film on the lower end of the bushing bracket. Drive the front up on ramps, block the rear wheels, shine a light at the bushing within the bracket.

    I prefer the OEM bushing for many reasons.
     
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  17. M^Cubed

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    My stock bushings are shot at 12K miles, so I really don't feel like going back to OE. The feel was never right to begin with IMO either.

    Nitro thank you for the help too. Do you happen to have any experience with the additional motorsports washer kit?
     
  18. Nathan

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    Ummm,..like yeah. With that statement we should be checking with MINI before we change any OEM part...

    You check with Ford before using their calipers on a MINI? That is an application that is altering it's intended use.
     
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    I spoke with George and he was very quick to answer all my questions. I will most likely purchasing his units since they are not on "close-out"

    Now I need to sell off my off-set bavauto units. TSW (Dr. Mike) talked me out of the off-sets due to my high front spring rate (~563 lbs/in)
     

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