German MINI Challenge Finale (In the Wet)

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  1. Nathan

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    #1 Nathan, Oct 17, 2010
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    If you think commuting is tough enough in the wet, try racing wheel to wheel with rear fogs blaring and the water flying. That was the scene at the final round of the German MINI Challenge in Salzburgring. What does the future for the MINI Challenge hold now that there is a WRC car? 2011 will be much of the same but we’re told t expect something Coupe shaped in 2012.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc9WkjErhEw[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po_ZWHNWgWg[/ame]
     
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    That is just crazy, but does look a bit like the DC Beltway on a rainy day. :D

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    Honestly it's not as bad as it looks. Last November Bthayer and I went down to Road Atlanta for a MVP track event, Saturday was great sunny weather but the rain came in overnight and upon arriving at the track Sunday morning it was pouring down.... Heck I was ready to pack in and go home but Ben calmed me down and convinced me to run a session or two. Well after the first session I was in love and wanted all I could get running the rest of the day! Fantastic learning experience and a real equalizer; passing a 911 down the backstretch with the rooster tails of rain was Nirvana!! Sense then I've run a Phil Wicks at VIR in the rain and welcome it when it comes, still like a beautiful day best but if it rains, bring it on. Thanks Ben!
     
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    Interesting, Mark. I guess it look worse in the clip.

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    Thanks for the thread Nathan.
     
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    Thanks for posting those Nathan.

    I have always loved racing in the rain, like Mark says it's a great equalizer. Looked kind of dicey to me, but that was because it was a race. On a track-day a wet track is not near the issue it is in a race. If I could have my preference I would choose a wet track over a dry one any day. Bring on the rain!
     
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    Odd, as I would not have thought that, but if two of you say it is coll, then so be it. On the other had didn't someone smash up their car on Helbender, in the rain at MOTD 8?:Thumbsup:

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    Racing in the rain on a race track is very different than flying down Hellbender in the rain... One could simply surmise that the very same reasons that driving fast on a race track is safer than doing it on the street in the dry will be amplified in the wet.... ;)
     
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    +1 :yesnod:
     
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    You are right. Not very many blind turns around rock outcroppings at the track and you don't have to stay in your lane all the time. :D

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    .....no low shoulders with no runoff areas, no trees 10 feet or closer from the road, no cliffs to drive off of, no grandpa's pick up trucks (going both ways), no pot holes, no mud and gravel being washed onto the surface and on the track you have the advantage of doing lap after lap learning where the best grip is....
     
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    Hummmm, perhaps I should take up tracking, as it does sound safer. :cornut:

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    It's more like a rally stage, but on a rally stage you do not have other road users plus you have pace notes being read by a co-driver.
     
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    When I am driving the twisties around here, my wife is giving me lots of pace notes and I do not feel it helpful at all. :lol:

    Speaking of which, watching the old clips of Paddy and his co-driver, the information seems to be more informative then what I hear now. It was like he was telling him which way the turn was going, how far and such. Perhaps I am not understanding exactly what is being said.

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