1st Gen R53 Cooper S Happy new owner with a few questions

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    byrddog151 New Member

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    Hello,
    I purchased a 2005 MCS cabrio (with cold air intake, MM plasma booster and front strut brace) a few weeks ago and we are really enjoying this car. The car has 25,000 miles on it.

    As I get more familiar with it I've developed a few questions that you seasoned vet may be able to answer. Some of these may be normal.

    If you are standing in front of the car, bonnet up, looking at the engine, down by the bumper and the left headlight there is an electrical junction box of some type with several wires leading in... this box seems to have been burned or something. It looks like some of the wires were burned away. Odd to me. Everything about the car seems to work fine. Also, there is some evidence of oily sooty grime. For a car of these few miles, I thought that odd also.

    In that same area under the bonnet there is a small switch attached to the bonnet latch or it was attached, it's broken off now. What is this switch? I thought it may be an under bonnet light, but it doesn't appear to be this.

    My wife has already ran her out of gas and she swears it had a 1/4 tank on the gauge. Is this a common problem? The wife has been told numerous times to not let it get that low or we'll start burning up pumps...:frown2: Oh well... life with Lisa...

    The dealer it was bought at originally told me the first owner had a new belt put on. Why at less than 25000 miles? Does it have a reduction pulley I'm not aware of? How can I tell?

    The dealer also said it has had a new fan on the power steering unit. Normal?

    On occasion I hear fans running for (remember I a new owner) no apparent reason and they don't sound like they are running smoothly or at a constant speed? Any insight?

    Thanks for your help experts!
     
  2. Tüls

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    I am pretty sure this stuff could be better answered with some pics. I think I know the problem but would rather see it before I say anything.

    Then depending on where you are, I am sure one of our great shops can help you get it taken care of. Looking at your location. Way Motor Works may be your best bet! :)
     
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    The switch sounds like the bonnet-closed/open switch, but like Tuls said, a pic would confirm that.

    The fuel gauge is typically accurate, or at least trustworthy. When my red light turns on I still have at least 2 gallons left in the tank [meaning it'll take about 11 gallons if you fill up right then, out of a 13.5 gal tank], and that has been the case with all 3 of my R53's.

    No idea on the burnt or sooty or the weird fan speeds. I'd remove the stupid plasma booster as it's most likely doing nothing but causing a fire hazard.

    The serpentine belt runs the supercharger also and is prone to heavy wear, so replacement every 25k is a good idea.

    Cheers,
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    Wife just called and her horn has stopped working. Start with the fuse box I guess. Where from there?
     
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    If not the fuse check the connection at the horn. It is hard for the plug to pop off but there may be some corrosion. It is also possible the horn its self has reached end of life and needs replacement. Not that dead horns are a common occurrence.
     
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    15A fuse blown... horn blows... I used the spare from the fuse block. Is it common to have fuses blow. Is it wise to keep plenty of spares on hand?
     
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    Replacing fuses is not normal. Maybe the previous owner added some device to the fuse that is stressing the fuse. However, 15A is pretty large. Maybe that Plasma Booster is on that fuse. Maybe some corrosion is causing higher than normal currents on that fuse. Get a manual and determine what else is on that fuse.

    Replacing the power steering fan is normal.

    The oily stuff could be the passenger side engine mount. It is common for them to leak and need replacement. Maybe it has been replaced but someone did not clean up the mess very well.

    As people have stated, pictures will help.
     
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    Thanks for all the responses.
    I can see I've got a lot to learn. Help me with this... why would and "engine mount" leak? Is there a lube associated with an engine mount?

    Working on the pictures. Thanks again.
     
  9. Nathan

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    The 05-06 and possibly up to 08 for the convertible have a fluid filled mount on the left side (passenger side) that is prone to leaking. MINI does replace these under warranty and even if you are beyond the mileage or time they may replace it under the goodwill policy. Never hurts to ask. The part is not that expensive but it probably will fail again over time. Texas Speedwerks has a replacement that will never leak. It is more expensive than the OEM mount but you will never need to replace it again.
     
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    Now I see the canister under the aluminum engine arm. I guess if there has been some type of oil leak in the past, this is better than it could have been. At least it was not actual engine oil.

    Well... The new 15a fuse on the horn has blown again. I'm going to look into finding some more info on this MM Plasma Booster to find out how it is wired in... possibly on the horn circuit?

    I'm also going to be looking for a shop manual. If anyone can give me a jump start on that search I'd appreciate it.
     
  11. Nathan

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    There is a manual for sale on that other site in the marketplace Click Me

    As to the plasma booster, go back to the OEM Coil and Wires.
     
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    Try amazon.com for a good price on a Bentley manual.

    Can you see black goo under the engine mount? Does it look old (dried from old leak) or fresh (from current leak).
     
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    Old, dried from an old leak would describe it best. It's laying in there thick in some nooks. That's why it seems strange for a car with only 25,000 miles on it.
     
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    Many leak early in life. Mine leaked at 35,000.
     
  15. Nathan

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    My first leaked at less than 10K miles. Second around 25K and now I've gone to the TSW mount. It will never leak again!!
     
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    What color are those wires? Brown? If so, that's a general grounding lug, and all the brown wires are ground leads. Why they're burned is beyond me, but Tuls and Way would likely be able to offer some insight if you can provide more details. Pics would help. I'm wondering if the motor mount oil leak is masquerading as something "sooty" when it's really oil with dust in it?

    Power steering fans are located low on these cars, and sucking a plastic bag into the fan (or over the grille of the fan) would cause it to burn up. When that happens, the fuse for the fan blows, which takes out the radiator fan and can cause an engine overheat. Have you checked service records? This can be prevented by installing a protective grille (I believe stock on your car) or an aluminum skidplate (relatively cheap, and an easy install).

    The motor mount is fluid filled, and a common failure point on the '05-'06 tin tops, and the '05-'08 convertibles. When it fails, you'll feel a little more vibration (sometimes), but will notice some oil leakage usually out of the front of the motor mount. It's not a "catastrophic" failure, the car remains quite driveable. Replacement is the only solution, and OE hasn't changed design. A good option is mentioned above, and I'm going there when this one (my 2nd, first failed at 20k) fails.

    Switch sounds like an aftermarket alarm system? Dunno. But... if the plasma booster (remove it) was installed, perhaps someone jacked with the electricals a bit? You may want to have that checked.

    None of the other issues you mention (replacing fuses, horn stopped working, sooty burned wires) are things I've seen in the Forums either here or on NAM (MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring) in 4+ years.

    Don't worry - these cars are pretty well supported and tend to last a good long time, even when driven hard. You'll get this sorted and enjoy the car. Good luck!
     
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    You guys are great.

    I think we have nailed most of the issues I have. The "sooty" grime must be from a blown motor mount. Considering installing the TSW when I get the nerve to take this on. I'm looking for a service manual so I can get more familiar with the car and do some things myself seeing as how my closest dealer/service is Memphis, 3 hours away.

    I still need to get to the bottom of that horn fuse thing. I lean toward the Plasma Booster. I assume there will need to be some thought put into it's removal not just start unraveling the electrical tape and remove wires where spliced in. Not sure on that. Maybe need installation instructions and reverse engineer it. Was anything removed and replaced by this unit?

    Look for a picture or two tonight if I can elbow in some computer time at home.

    Oh yeah... Where does everyone get those cool custom CARtoon sigs that look like their car? Our Wind looks alot like Blimeys sig.

    Thanks Y'all!
     
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    Well finally here's a couple of pictures of the wiring terminal I thought looks burnt. We have come to understand I probably have or have had a blown motor mount which I plan on getting straight ASAP. Maybe that is the reason it looks grimey in that area.

    If you look at the close up picture you can see the block which is only about half full of wires (yes, brown wires). The wires look burned down close to the block and the empty spaces look as though small pieces of wire are there, sticking out and they look burned too. Note the gunk on the bonnet release cable...

    In the wider shot you can see the bottom of the motor mount can and the gunk coming from under and running down the sheet metal. Look like a blown motor mount issue there?

    All in all it just looks dirty for a car with only 25,000 on it. And yes... it's clean now.
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  19. Nathan

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    I fixed the links to the images.

    From the first images it looks like the motor mount has failed and has leaked out all it's fluid.
     
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    I had my horn replaced at 20k, and I've gone through 2 engine mounts in 35k. No real surprises there.

    I just looked under my bonnet (05 MCS tin top) and that wire block looks exactly like mine does (mine's inverted, though, wire bundle is closer to rear of engine bay). The unwired end is full of junk on mine so that's probably why it looks like burnt wires.

    Oh, and while looking in there I just realized that the top of my strut on the passenger side is cracked :mad5: Darn potholes.
     

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