Opinion: Why the Prodrive WRC MINI Countryman is important.

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  1. Nathan

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    #1 Nathan, Jun 16, 2010
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    From MotoringFile...

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    Back in the 1960s, John Cooper’s tuning abilities made the small, sprightly BMC Mini into a monster. The small wonders dethroned the winning combination of Erik “On the Roof” Carlsson and the Saab 96 after two consecutive Monte Carlo victories. The Mini’s success was no fluke as the results were repeated in 1964, ‘65 and ‘67. In 1966, the Mini-Cooper S cars driven by Timo Mäkinen, Rauno Aaltonen and Paddy Hopkirk were disqualified on a homologation technicality. According to the BBC:

    Otherwise, the Minis would have taken first, second and third. The scandal rocked the Monte Carlo Rally and cast doubts on its future because of this terrible upset. The driver who was awarded 1st place, Pauli Toivonen, quit racing for his sponsor Citroen because of the scandal. Reportedly, he did not talk about his victory because he felt it was undeserved.

    With this kind of fabled past behind it, BMW’s MINI created a marketing image built upon the rally days of the 1960s. In 2004, MINI celebrated its’ Monte Carlo victories with the MC40 edition Cooper S, including vintage-style rally numbers and badges. But, despite the success of the brand what they are lacking is a presence in modern motorsports.

    Manufacturers want to compete for dominance in racing because it can directly translate to moving product from the showroom. For an example, look no further than the ascendence of Audi as a street car producer parallel to its success as a racing car company. Their LMP1 cars won Le Mans 9 out of 10 races so far this decade. Un-coincidentally, Audi’s sales figures rose to higher than ever before in the history of the company, transforming an also-ran into a real competitor for BMW and Mercedes.

    The problem boils down to the fact that the modern MINIs don’t have all wheel drive technology. Since Audi introduced Quattro all wheel drive in 1980, rally racing hasn’t been the same. It’s a requirement in the sport. And although Getrag experimented with an AWD R53 (read about it here) back in 2004, MINI have decided to stick to FWD on its cars up until the announcement of the (pardon me while I whip this out) MINI Cooper S Countryman All-4. As a platform that was developed with AWD in mind, the Countryman is ideal for a rally car. And that is what, no doubt, got the attention of Banbury, Oxfordshire-based automotive technology company Prodrive.

    Prodrive has been in motorsport since 1984, when they started with BMW, MG and Porsche cars. This decade, it was responsible for the formation of Aston Martin Racing. The team-up led to two 24 Hours of Le Mans wins (2007 and 2008) in the GT1 class. Prodrive were also behind the 6 WRC titles of the Subaru World Rally Team. If you’ve ever seen a boy racer in an electric blue Impreza WRX with gold rims, you can blame Prodrive. The amount of caché given Subaru by its racing team can scarcely be quantified in dollars. Subaru’s mindshare today is due to the work of Prodrive.

    And if you have any doubts of their mastery of anything on wheels, look no further than the Prodrive P2, a prototype sports car:

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    I would give you the details but the fact that it made Jeremy Clarkson vomit should sell you on its badassness:

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    It was a happy marriage between Prodrive and Subaru up until late 2008. During the global economic crisis, Subaru cut its WRC team in order to save some bread. BMW left F1 about 6 months later in order to shift money over to develop green technologies and to participate in production model based motorports. Who knows who contacted whom but all of a sudden, reports started surfacing of a collaboration between MINI and Prodrive on prototype Countryman models. As reported here, the latest news was an unveiling next to the official coming-out party for the production Countryman cars at Geneva. Unfortunately, March came and went with nary a peep from Prodrive or MINI in regards to the vehicle.

    Whenever this car is set to be shown to the public, it is for certain that it will make its debut for the 2012 WRC season. More stringent homologation rules are being put in place and undoubtedly this means the Country(men) seen on the street will be more than a little similar under the hood to those being thrashed on the circuit.

    A return to motorsports means that MINI can proudly wear its rally history as a badge of honor, while racing technologies might even make their way into the John Cooper Works stable of cars. Given the weak reception of the R56 JCWs, this means that the ’surfboard’ might soon carry some weight among automotive enthusiasts, much akin to the reverence the STi badge garners today.

    In summary: Prodrive is British, makes rally cars that have a history of winning, and they’ve got a MINI in the oven. Hold onto your hats.

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    that could be the special sauce. Prodrive is awesome.
     
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    Nothing but good things can come of this.:cornut:
     
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    Great write-up Nathan. This all could turn out to be really, really cool...
     
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    Great writing, Nathan! And great teaser shot, also... That AM is simply gorgeous.
     
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    I want to make sure we are perfectly clear here...This is from MotoringFile, the author is Brendan. The RSS feed from Motoring File had some changes recently and if there is an image at the start no text is displayed. I have contacted them about this.
     
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    Great stuff, can't wait to see it happen! Ya just had to wonder when BMW would try and capitalize on the MINI ralley history.... :)

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    But I still can't get past the headlights.
     
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    Sweeeeeeeeet:D. Think this could lead to an AWD JCW hatch?
     
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    AWD JCW Coupe would be SWEEEEEEET!!!!! :)))))

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    mini + prodive + wrc = :D

    i think prodive definitely have the stuff to make a good car, getting a driver that can win might be the tricky bit

    should go better then new f1 teams as they at least have previous experience in making cars that are competitive
     
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    ain't no fixing ugly, eh?
     
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    Not enough whiskey in Kentucky.
     
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    With your butt in the drivers seat, I bet the look of the headlights is not a big issue:Thumbsup:. Now, standing in front of it looking at them:prrr:

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    Man, that is A LOT of whiskey. You sure? :lol:
     
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    Just mount 5 Cibie Super Oscar 200's above the front bumper and you won't even notice the headlights.:D
     
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    I am sure. I like round head lights. The shape of them on that four door is gawd awful. Reminds me of the brewhaha they had with the head lights on the 996 Porsches. I will be in the market for a used Porsche hopefully some time next year. And I had to eliminate the entire 996 model simply because of that.

    Hey, I am old and set in my ways.
     
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    I'm going out on a limb and saying that Audi's success has very little to do with winning Le Mans. Without checking the sales figures I have to imagine that Audi's growth is due in large part to selling more cars in the USA, the world's largest market during Audi's growth and a market where no one has paid any attention to sports car racing since Dan Gurney's Toyota was racing.

    And even that is pushing it considering Google Images barely found anything after a search for Dan Gurney Toyota Eagle:
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    From: Historic Toyotas Featured at Monterey Historic Races
     
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    It's nice to have high hopes for a ProDrive Countryman

    but the Focus and the Citroen have tons of experience, much better sorted chassis, and the best drivers. That's hard to fight against. who even knows if the Countryman can be made competitive. Or will it just be some sort of sticker car like Nascar? Then who really cares.....

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    I'm pretty sure that this car/suv/thing won't set any standards for driving experience behind the wheel. Then again, I'm forever spoiled by a friend's GT3 RS. :nonod:

    not worse than the 'peanut' eyed Mercedes C-Class of a decade ago. Not to mention, you can do a 997 conversion on the 996 and still come out ahead on value compared to a 997. I was <that> close to doing this last month. Alas, a P car out of warranty wasn't a risk I wanted to take on at this point.
     

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