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    wzabrouski Active Member

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    Going to be switching to ss brake lines next week and flush the fluid to motul. Silly question is how will I know when I have pumped out all the old fluid. I know ate is blue so that would be the answer but I am not sure the color of the motul compared to stock fluid.
     
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    Even when flushing Super Blue, it's not a black and white transition. It's more of a blending, and then all of a sudden you realize it's switched over. So if you're going from slightly amber to slightly amber, just guess based on volume. As a reference, it seems like filling and emptying the reservoir twice will more than do the trick. The rears take more fluid and the fronts much less. So say 0.75 reservoirs for each rear and 0.25 for each front.
     
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    #3 agranger, Feb 14, 2011
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    Yep... I have a plastic bleeder bottle that would hold about 6/10 of a bottle of ATE fluid. I pour the entire bottle of ATE into my Motive bleeder and attach it to the car. I bleed the back brakes first and fill up most of the bleeder bottle, then pour it into the now empty can from ATE. I then bleed about 1/2 of a bottles worth from the front brake calipers and call it good. I'm more concerned about getting the best possible bleed on the front calipers, so I tend to 'over bleed' them, if there is such a thing.

    All of the spent fluid is collected and sent to a recycling center for processing.
     
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    I ordered the motive pressure bleeder yesterday.
     
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    Neat trick with the power bleeder is that after you have attached it and pumped it up, release enough air from the bleeder at the cap to draw some fresh fluid into the res. so you don't have to contend with the air in the fill tube.
     
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    As far as working with Motul. It's a color thing. Used Motul has a dark amber look to it and new is lighter.

    When you do the first brake caliper (right rear) take a look at the color when you open up the line (I use clear tubing going into a clear 16oz receptacle). You'll notice a def color change when the new fluid starts to flow
     
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    Or you could use ATE - it comes in two different colors, amber and blue.

    One time you use the amber, the next time the blue - it becomes very obvious when you've gotten all the old fluid out. Both types are identical except for the color.
     
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    There you go making sense again MD! :cornut:
     
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    And the name! For some reason they call the amber stuff "ATE typ200" and the blue stuff "ATE SuperBlue". Go figure!
     
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    Yes, but same spec as I understand it. It also depends on what he's going to do with the car, but I'm told Super Blue is fine for street cars running track events, and way better than what you buy at Pep Boys.....

    Just a thought.....
     

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