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Steve · Sep 10, 2014

I'm sure Gene Haas is rubbing his temples and wondering what effect it will have on his deal. I wonder who signed off on it. If it was Montezemolo...who knows?

Steve · Sep 10, 2014

For those who haven't heard the news, the hammer apparently finally dropped after Ferrari's poor showing at Monza.

Ferrari chairman and key F1 figure Luca di Montezemolo steps down (autosport.com)

By Jonathan Noble | Wednesday, September 10th 2014, 07:16 GMT

Ferrari chairman Luca di Montezemolo ended days of speculation about his future by announcing he is to step down from his role with the car company and Formula 1 team.

Ahead of a Ferrari board meeting on Thursday that is expected to announce record profits, di Montezemolo issued a statement saying that he will end his 23-year spell at Maranello.

He said his decision had been prompted by the flotation plans of the new Fiat Chrysler Automobiles company, which is planned for the New York Stock Exchange next month.

"Ferrari will have an important role to play within the FCA Group in the upcoming flotation on Wall Street," he said. "This will open up a new and different phase which I feel should be spearheaded by the CEO of the Group.

"This is the end of an era and so I have decided to leave my position as chairman after almost 23 marvellous and unforgettable years in addition to those spent at Enzo Ferrari's side in the 1970s."

Di Montezemolo will stay on until the flotation on October 13.

Speculation about 67-year-old di Montezemolo's future intensified at last weekend's Italian Grand Prix, but he insisted during an impromptu media call on Saturday that he had no intention of stepping down.

In fact, he said an offer to remain in his position for three more years, which had been made back in March, was still valid.

But renewed questions about di Montezemolo's future erupted in the wake of criticisms from Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne, who made clear that the performance of Ferrari's F1 team was 'unacceptable'.

Marchionne will become Ferrari's new chairman and suggested that 'misunderstandings' that came to light over the Monza weekend proved the catalyst for change.

He said: "Luca and I have discussed the future of Ferrari at length. And our mutual desire to see Ferrari achieve its true potential on the track has led to misunderstandings which became clearly visible over the last weekend."

Di Montezemolo thanked the Ferrari staff who had worked with him during his spell there, and made particular reference to Enzo Ferrari's son Piero. No mention was made of Marchionne.

"Ferrari is the most wonderful company in the world," said di Montezemolo, who initially ran Ferrari's F1 operation during its mid-1970s glory years with Niki Lauda, before returning in 1991 at Fiat's behest.

"It has been a great privilege and honour to have been its leader. I devoted all of my enthusiasm and commitment to it over the years.

"Together with my family, it was, and continues to be, the most important thing in my life.

"I wish the shareholders, particularly Piero Ferrari who has always been by my side, and everyone in the company the many more years of success that Ferrari deserves."
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Steve · Sep 11, 2014

That was quick. Effective immediately. I guess I wasn't paying attention to the details, figured this was something they were going to consider as a rule change for next year.

Q&A with the FIA on team radio restrictions (GPUpdate.net)

16:33 â€“ Formula 1 drivers face an increased workload at future Grands Prix with confirmation that the FIA is to restrict pit-to-car radio messages which include information about car or driver performance. GPUpdate.net put some key questions to the governing body to clear up what will and will not be permitted from Singapore.

Q: Will race control first give a warning if a team goes too far, or will there be an instant sanction?
A: With a clear set of guidelines, we see no reason for there to be warnings.

Q: Does Article 20.1 of the Sporting Regulations (stating that a driver must drive the car alone and unaided) only apply to the race or also to practice sessions and qualifying?
A: It will apply to the entire event.

Q: Is the message that a driver should come in for a pit-stop a breach of the regulations?
A: We think that it would be OK to allow teams to tell drivers when to stop for tyres.

Q: Is a warning that the driver is tight on fuel consumption a breach of the regulations?
A: Yes, we believe so. The driver should see that on the dashboard (like a fuel gauge on a road car). *

Q: Are warnings about the condition of the brakes or tyres (slow puncture) still allowed?
A: No, this should be displayed to the driver from data gathered onboard, again like a fuel gauge on a road car.

Q: Are commands such as SOC 3, MIX 5, FUEL 2 still allowed?
A: No, definitely not. This is exactly what we feel infringes Article 20.1.

Q: What about all of the instructions the drivers receive on a formation lap in order to warm up the tyres and brakes, synchronise the gearbox, carry out burnouts and so on?
A: None of this would be allowed as again, this is exactly what we feel infringes Article 20.1.

Q: What about team orders (overtake, do not overtake)?
A: This should be OK.

Q: What about information regarding traffic in qualifying and the race?
A: This will not be a problem.

Q: Will the radio messages of all 22 cars be checked, or just those on the world feed?
A: We listen to and record all the conversations.

* Not all the teams race with the new, larger LCD display screens â€“ such as Red Bull, Williams and Lotus â€“ meaning they would have to consider switching or face leaving their drivers with less information).
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ANALYSIS: Impact of F1 team radio limits (Racer.com)

Jonathan Noble | Thursday, 11 September 2014

Formula 1's decision to impose a major clampdown on team radio has divided opinion.

On one side, there are those - like Bernie Ecclestone - who feel that constant radio instructions from the pits have made the drivers appear to be nothing more than puppets. On the other hand, some suggest that F1 is and always has been about teams and drivers, and there are a number of fans who revel in the constant communication between cockpit and pit wall.

But irrespective of the rights and wrongs, F1 race director Charlie Whiting's technical directive to the teams banning all forms of "information that is related to the performance of the car or driver" is going to make a change.

MORE WORK FOR DRIVERS

Teams are not only going to have to change their protocol from the pits, but there is now going to be much more emphasis on the driver, which is the aim.

Comparisons of lap time performance with rivals, and working out where improvements can be made, will now have to wait until they return to the pits. This should play in to the hands of drivers who can naturally find the limit, rather than working out with live telemetry advice how to find more speed.

Mercedes F1 steering wheel

There will also be more demands on the driver to take note of information from LCD displays on the steering wheel - which will play to those drivers better able to multi-task in the cockpit.

Interestingly, not all teams opted for the larger LCD display screens on offer this season. So those outfits running the minimalist version â€“ like Red Bull, Williams and Lotus â€“ will either have to consider a switch of design or face leaving their drivers with less information.

Lotus head of trackside operations Alan Permane said: "We don't have the huge screen and I would guess there are other teams that don't have it, so it could put us at a significant disadvantage."

One way for teams to get around the restrictions may be through the use of codewords, as was the case during the team orders ban.

When asked if this was likely, McLaren racing director Eric Boullier said: "Of course. I am sure 'the sky is blue' will be a message. Maybe we will be asked what it means, but I am pretty sure there will be some code..."

It is unclear at this stage whether the FIA will rule that even codewords advising drivers are a breach of the rules.

THE PERFORMANCE IMPACT

While the team radio ban will hurt those drivers who relied more on information from the pits, it is unlikely to result in a radical shake-up in performance. Permane underlined that a constant information stream from the pits was not to every driver's taste.

"Some drivers respond really well to that, but others don't want to hear anything at all," he said. "I would say our two are kind of neutral on it. They would much rather look at a graphic overlay between runs.

"I know Mercedes tends to tell their drivers on in-laps that this is where they are losing out. I can see that that is maybe undesirable to some, but honestly it will not change a great deal."

Een if the grid is not shaken up, the change should help with some of F1's image problems. As Boullier says, a lot of F1's popularity problems this year relate to perception â€“ like the cars being easier to drive â€“ so any change that makes it more obvious how hard things are for the current drivers is a bonus.

"If, by actually having opened up the broadcasting radio messages we have changed the perception, and the drivers have lost their superstar status, then we have to think about it," he said. "Because it is not true. F1 is still F1. It is still 350km/h, which is fast.

"You still need to drive this car to the limit. You can make the car harder to drive or more physical to drive, but it is perception. We need to change the messaging."

And, quite literally, that's exactly what is happening for Singapore.
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minimark · Sep 11, 2014

Wouldn't it be easier to stop live datalog communications from the car.....?

Steve · Sep 11, 2014

minimark said: ↑

Wouldn't it be easier to stop live datalog communications from the car.....?
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I suppose they could restrict which data are allowed to stream live. In theory, teams won't be able to use most of it in real time anymore so it could just be recorded but I suspect they'll be allowed to make use of data elements that indicate whether the car needs to be retired immediately. Or maybe even a call telling the driver to retire the car will be verboten?

Steve · Sep 11, 2014

Yeah, but given at least one driver has already exceeded his allocation of one power unit component or another (and has been penalized for it) if they do that -- i.e., prevent teams from shut-downs and retirements to preserve components -- they'll probably also need to change the allocation rules.

Steve · Sep 15, 2014

Joe Saward has been thinking about the travel/transport side of F1 logistics.

In a perfect worldâ€¦ (joesaward.wordpress.com)

September 15, 2014

I am anything but a good businessman but, in my favour, I love Formula 1 motor racing and I am passionate about it and so when I see rampant profiteering going on at the expense of the sport, I get annoyed. I want the best possible Formula 1 and so I naturally object to what the financiers have done to the sport. Suffice to say that if I was a multi-squillionaire I would buy the sport and fix it the way I think it should be. A lot would stay the same but distribution of money would be very different and no teams would get an advantage.

From a philosophical point of view, I donâ€™t understand the super-rich. If you are comfortable for the rest of your days why is there any need to screw every penny from every deal. Yes, there is ego and the pleasure of doing the deal but I donâ€™t get the need to keep score. Once you have enough money it ceases to have any value beyond being something than can be used for good. If you are earning money just to be richer than someone else you are no better really than a mouse on a wheel. F1 is just a game and irrelevant in the history of the world, but it nonetheless gives pleasure to millions and inspires people. It is their escape from the drudgery of everyday life. It puts a smile on their faces, and that is its sole real value. But making people happy is a sensible and tangible goal to have.

Anyway, this is why I do not understand the new calendar for 2015. One does not need to be a rocket scientist to work out that if one twins â€œfly-awayâ€ (intercontinental) in the same region, one reduces transportation costs. Thus a calendar with no fewer than six stand-alone fly-away races cannot possibly be justified as the most cost-effective route to take. There is absolutely no logic in having Australia as a stand-alone event and then a two week break before a Malaysian-Bahraini double-header and then China as a stand-alone event. You would save 30 percent of the cost by moving Malaysia to a week after Australia and then having China and Bahrain separated by a week. In a similar fashion it is daft not to twin Russia and Abu Dhabi, Canada and Austin and Mexico and Brazil. Thus the only possible explanation for such an inefficient calendar is that there is an agenda to try to force teams to accept more races by making the existing events needlessly expensive.

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If interested, read the rest here.

Minidave · Sep 15, 2014

Two weeks between Malaysia and Australia doesn't mean they fly home to Europe in between, does it? Seems to me they need that first two week break to regroup after the first race, someone is always unexpectedly fast and someone is also unexpectedly slow - it gives them a breather to rethink and reset, but it makes sense to me they'd either stay in Australia, or go immediately to Malaysia and stay there till the race rather than going home again.

It's much cheaper to fly some parts over (if they need to change some bits) than the whole race team.....

B.A.D. · Sep 15, 2014

Minidave said: ↑

Two weeks between Malaysia and Australia doesn't mean they fly home to Europe in between, does it? Seems to me they need that first two week break to regroup after the first race, someone is always unexpectedly fast and someone is also unexpectedly slow - it gives them a breather to rethink and reset, but it makes sense to me they'd either stay in Australia, or go immediately to Malaysia and stay there till the race rather than going home again.

It's much cheaper to fly some parts over (if they need to change some bits) than the whole race team.....
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I would assume that some of the team would fly home, can't imagine that the entire team (including the hospitality team) would need to hang out for the extra week between races when there is a two week gap.

Steve · Sep 16, 2014

F1 teams question high ticket prices (racer.com)

Monday, 15 September 2014

Mercedes motorsport boss Toto Wolff says Formula 1 teams have broached concerns about ticket prices being too high with the sport's commercial chief Bernie Ecclestone.

As part of increasingly intense talks between teams and F1's chiefs to find out why interest in grand prix racing has declined in key markets, one item that has been highlighted has been high ticket prices. The extreme cost of attending some races is viewed as a turn-off for many, but lowering the price of tickets is difficult for many promoters because the high fee they must pay Ecclestone to host a race makes it hard to recoup income any other way.

Wolff says that teams are aware of the difficulties race promoters have, which is why they have mentioned the issue to Ecclestone, as well as making it clear that F1 cannot turn its back on traditional venues.

"We have dared to discuss ticket prices, and we discussed the impact and the importance of the traditional circuits like Spa, like Monza, like Hockenheim," explained Wolff about talks with Ecclestone. "Races like that need to be part of the race calendar. This is a global sport.

"We need to go abroad and we need to conquer new territories and new countries, this always has been the case, but I guess it is pretty clear what needs to be done to fill the grandstands in the traditional races such as Hockenheim and Monza."

RESEARCH NEEDED

Wolff's comments come in the wake of McLaren Group CEO Ron Dennis suggesting that F1 should do some market research to understand why some venues struggle to attract spectators.

The issue was thrust in to the spotlight at the German Grand Prix when Hockenheim could not fill it grandstands, whereas the three previous races in Canada, Austria and Britain were huge successes.

Dennis said: "How can we go to Silverstone and Austria and it be absolutely full, and then we go to Germany and it's half full? There must be a reason.

"We can all guess, but that's not very scientific. We've really got to understand why these things happen. Is it ticketing prices? Is it national heroes, etc.? Whatever it is we have to address it."

Originally on Autosport.com
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mrntd · Sep 16, 2014

Bernie didn't like the cheap ticket prices at the Indy race. He said it let in too much of the riff raff. I'm not sure if I was riff or raff but I liked the prices.

Zapski · Sep 16, 2014

mrntd said: ↑

Bernie didn't like the cheap ticket prices at the Indy race. He said it let in too much of the riff raff. I'm not sure if I was riff or raff but I liked the prices.
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I'm curious to know what former used car salesman Mr. E. thinks of as "riff raff."

Crashton · Sep 16, 2014

Korea & India were dropped, no enough $$$$.$$$ for Bernie, no race!

Steve · Sep 16, 2014

I don't know if I think those particular venues are great losses to F1 but you're spot on about the reason for their departure from the schedule.

The same reason Bernie threatened Monza with replacement, and I think most would agree that Monza shouldn't be relegated just because Bernie sees another customer off in the distance waving a larger stack of money at him.

Crashton · Sep 16, 2014

Bernie gets a fee for any GP to happen & I'm sure he gets a percentage of the gate. If the race doesn't get enough paying fans than Bernie's cut is not enough.

To cut Monza would be a sacrilege. Sure seemed to be a sell out from in front of my tube.

Steve · Sep 16, 2014

FIA clarifies new Formula One team radio restrictions (nbcsports.com)

Chris Estrada | Sep 16, 2014, 6:00 PM EDT

Formula One teams have now been given a list of radio transmissions that are acceptable and not acceptable after the FIA announced a technical directive to limit in-car instructions to the drivers from the pits.

The directive seemingly revolves around Article 20.1 of the FIAâ€™s sporting regulations that stipulates â€œthe driver must drive the car alone and unaided.â€

However, the directive was met with mixed reactions, with Mercedes boss Toto Wolff in particular stating that everyone needed â€œfurther clarification as to how much the essential on-track procedures will be affected â€“ particularly before the start of the race.â€

Now, it appears Wolff and the rest of the paddock have that clarification.

Per the FIA, messages that are now banned across both radio and pit board include information on a competitorâ€™s sector times, the level of fuel saving needed, coded messages, and the answering of a direct technical question from drivers.

Other messages like information on tire pressures/temperatures and brake wear/temperatures will be prohibited from the Japanese Grand Prix onward to give teams time to adapt to these new rules.

Hereâ€™s the full list:

Message types allowed
â€“ Acknowledgement that a driver message has been heard.
â€“ Lap or sector time detail.
â€“ Lap time detail of a competitor.
â€“ Gaps to a competitor during a practice session or race.
â€“ â€œPush hardâ€, â€œpush nowâ€, â€œyou will be racing xxâ€ or similar.
â€“ Helping with warning of traffic during a practice session or race.
â€“ Giving the gaps between cars in qualifying so as to better position the car for a clear lap.
â€“ Puncture warning.
â€“ Tire choice at the next pit stop.
â€“ Number of laps a competitor has done on a set of tires during a race.
â€“ Tire specification of a competitor.
â€“ Indication of a potential problem with a competitorâ€™s car during a race.
â€“ Information concerning a competitors likely race strategy.
â€“ Yellow flags, blue flags, Safety Car deployment or other cautions.

Message types not allowed
â€“ Sector time detail of a competitor and where a competitor is faster or slower.
â€“ Adjustment of power unit settings.
â€“ Adjustment of power unit setting to de-rate the systems.
â€“ Adjustment of gearbox settings.
â€“ Learning of gears of the gearbox (will only be enforced from the Japanese Grand Prix onwards).
â€“ Balancing the SOC [state-of-charge of batteries] or adjusting for performance.
â€“ Information on fuel flow settings (except if requested to do so by race control).
â€“ Information on level of fuel saving needed.
â€“ Information on tire pressures or temperatures (will only be enforced from the Japanese Grand Prix onwards).
â€“ Information on differential settings.
â€“ Start maps related to clutch position, for race start and pit stops.
â€“ Information on clutch maps or settings, e.g. bite point.
â€“ Burn-outs prior to race starts.
â€“ Information on brake balance or BBW (brake-by-wire) settings.
â€“ Warning on brake wear or temperatures (will only be enforced from the Japanese Grand Prix onwards).
â€“ Selection of driver default settings (other than in the case of a clearly idetified problem with the car).
â€“ Answering a direct question from a driver, e.g. â€œAm I using the right torque mapâ€?
â€“ Any message that appears to be coded.
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goaljnky · Sep 16, 2014

For my money Milka had a better harness rack.

Steve · Sep 17, 2014

Marko: Mr Vettel is one of our most expensive items (grandprix247.com)

17 September, 2014

Contract negotiations between reigning Formula 1 world champion Sebastian Vettel and Red Bull appear to be in full swing, amid rampant speculation that the German could be about to complete a ‘seat swap’ with Ferrari‘s Fernando Alonso for 2015 was denied.

“There is nothing new,” Vettel told Sport Bild. “I have a contract with Red Bull and I’m happy where I am.”

And Helmut Marko has since added: “Alonso will definitely not be at Red Bull.”

Curiously, Marko’s denial did not mention Vettel, who has struggled to match new teammate Daniel Ricciardo in 2014 and is now linked with a big-money offer to spearhead the new McLaren-Honda alliance.

It could be that the Vettel-to-Ferrari report this week is directly related to Red Bull’s efforts to re-sign the 27-year-old beyond his 2016 contract but at a much lower rate of pay.

Insiders have tipped Red Bull to address the huge difference between Vettel’s retainer and that of his impressive new teammate Ricciardo, who currently earns many multiples less than the reigning quadruple world champion.

At the height of the Vettel-Alonso seat swap speculation this week, Red Bull’s Marko named Vettel as one of the Milton Keynes-based team’s “most expensive” outlays.

Referring to Red Bull’s decision to give struggling Vettel a fourth chassis of the season to use in Singapore, he said: “Mr Vettel is one of our most expensive items.

“And if we cannot make the most of that, that’s bad,” he is quoted by Bild-Zeitung.

“It cannot be that we cannot exploit the potential of our most valuable member because we are not giving him the best car,” added Marko. (GMM)
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Steve · Sep 18, 2014

Felipe Massa on Bernie's claim that the drivers wanted team radio banned: "Maybe he asked some drivers from the 80s..."

Bernie Ecclestone: I banned team radio advice for drivers (bbc.com)

By Andrew Benson | 18 September 2014

Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone says he was behind the ban on teams giving drivers advice over the radio.

The 83-year-old said drivers needed to be heroes in the wake of concerns they appeared to be puppets for engineers.

"The drivers are all happy it's gone. They drive the cars, they should know what's wrong and right," he said.

Governing body the FIA has issued guidelines over what teams can and cannot tell drivers to help enforce a rule that they "drive the car unaided".

Teams have been given a list of about 50 items of permitted and banned radio messages, which extends to information on the drivers' pit boards as well.

The banned areas include giving any information on where a competitor is faster or slower, clutch, gearbox, brake and engine settings, battery charge for the hybrid system and fuel usage.

"They shouldn't have someone on the pit wall telling them what to do," Ecclestone said.

"We have a regulation in force, 'drivers must drive the car alone and unaided'. They have been well and truly aided and still are, even if we get rid of this 'ship to shore', as I call it. There are still a lot of aids they shouldn't have."

Asked if F1 had become too easy for the drivers, he said: "It's not easy, but it's easier than it was."

Williams's Felipe Massa rejected Ecclestone's claim that all the drivers backed the change.

"Maybe he spoke to the drivers from the '80s, who do not know what it is like to drive these cars," the Brazilian said. "I'm completely against it. It's something they could have done professionally.

"The cars are very complicated, and this is not related to driving. If the settings are wrong, you cannot do two laps before the car fails.

"If it stays like this, there will be a big fight in the drivers' briefing (with FIA race director Charlie Whiting on Friday)."

And although coded messages are banned under the new ruling, Massa predicted they would still be used.

"There can be a lot of code," he said. "The engineer will say something, the driver can change a setting and no-one will know."

But Ferrari's Fernando Alonso said he did not think the rule change would have much of an impact.

"No big difference for me," the double world champion said. "We never used the radio for performance anyway. At the end of the day, the driver still drives the car. The rule is just to put the drivers in a more alone situation."

Force India's Sergio Perez added: "It's not great they have made such a big change from one race to another. But I don't see it as a big deal. We will have more info and will be a bit busier trying to keep things under control, fuel modes and engine modes."

Alonso's team-mate Kimi Raikkonen said the biggest concern would be if there was a reliability issue with the car.

"It might get complicated if there is a problem trying to change things to finish the race," the Finn said.

Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel said that the ban could make managing the cars' complex systems "rather interesting".

"The main concern is not fuel consumption - it's fairly easy to put that information up (on the dashboard) but in terms of managing certain components on the car it can be quite difficult for us," said the German.

"It could be a problem managing the state of (battery) charge in the race.

"That's why we have so many people in the garage. They're not here to have a nice time and have a couple of beers. They're here to do a job."

Williams' head of vehicle performance Rob Smedley suggested there could be some modifications to the ban.

"These 2014 power units are the most complex ever seen in F1; there are six principal components to them and to have the drivers manage that alone, with the current systems we have on the car in terms of of driver information, it's too much," Smedley told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"If we want to introduce something for 2015, which is where I think we are going to head, then that's fine. Everyone has time to react and to train the drivers and the team. We need to be sensible."
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Steve · Sep 18, 2014

Drivers have different views about the potential effects of radio use restrictions. Seems some rely on that chatter and feedback more than others. I wonder whether it will have any relative performance impacts or just cause greater likelihood of catastrophic failure type issues...or both...or neither. There's obviously concern though since it doesn't all seem to be talk goaded by sensation seeking media.

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