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minimark · Nov 11, 2014

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Time to hire a designated hitter. I'm Sure Caterham could use the money.
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Think Nico tried to interview Massa for the job....lol

Crashton · Nov 12, 2014

Hope Bernie doesn't fire up the way back machine to change history.

Crashton · Nov 12, 2014

Double sucks.

mrntd · Nov 13, 2014

"If you don't like the data, manipulate the results"

Steve · Nov 13, 2014

Remember when most of the teams threatened to quit F1 and start a separate series? I was never even sure whether it was just the usual "threaten something drastic to get attention and/or get your own way" tactic. I can't quite remember when that was but about once a year I wonder what would have happened if they'd done it.

Nathan's comment reminded me. Seems like Ferrari were one of the teams threatening to quit. If they'd gone through with it and Ferrari had played it like they do everything else they might have ended up with even greater preferential treatment than they get now...though still probably not triple points for their driver(s).

Zapski · Nov 13, 2014

Welp, that's it for the smaller teams, and F1 really. Shame they aren't trying to ban energy drinks too....

FIA president Jean Todt under fire for failure to ban alcohol sponsorship in Formula One - Telegraph

Jean Todt, the FIA President, has come under fire over alcohol sponsorship in Formula One, as European Union plans to ban drinks advertising in sport gather pace. The move could put F1's smallest teams under even greater threat.

It has been a bumper year for alcohol advertising in Formula One, with the return of Martini to Williams in a deal worth around Â£10 million, and the announcement of Johnnie Walker as the official whisky supplier of the championship. McLaren also have Johnnie Walker on the side of their car, which is thought to bring Â£15 million a year. Smirnoff signed an agreement with Force India in May.

Todt and the FIA have consistently positioned themselves as ambassadors of road safety, with the former Ferrari team principal having one eye on a possible job at the United Nations. But this has incensed the road safety lobby and anti-alcohol bodies, given F1â€™s association with alcohol brands.

In a move reminiscent of the public campaign which was fought before tobacco sponsorship was banned in the 2000s, the European Alcohol Policy Alliance (Eurocare) has written an open letter to Todt, asking for a meeting and â€œrapid actionâ€ from the Frenchman.

Mariann Skar, the secretary general of the body, wrote: â€œWhen considering the continued destructive prevalence of drink-driving, permitting the mixed messages presented in alcohol sponsorship of Formula One seems ever more inappropriate given the total viewing audience of 500 million.

The alliance of 57 public health bodies across 25 European countries added: â€œ[We are] deeply concerned of the heavy marketing exercise seen in Formula 1 and is therefore requesting an urgent change.â€

Eurocare even claimed that F1 may already be in breach of several EU directives, as it begins a concerted attempt to persuade the new European Commission to ban alcohol advertising in sport.

The letter goes on: â€œAllowing alcohol sponsorship in Formula One seems to contradict many official guidelines for the marketing of alcohol. It runs against the EU Directive which states that marketing for the consumption of alcohol should not be linked to driving.

â€œMoreover, the current association between alcohol and driving does not seem to fall in the category of 'the widespread promotion of responsible drinking messages', part of the mission supported by the alcohol industry itself.â€

It will lobby questions in the European Parliament and hold an event there on the subject next year. Eurocare has also invited David Ward - the bitter former presidential rival of Todt - to speak at an upcoming conference, which will no doubt ruffle a few feathers.

The FIA did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Copies of the letter have also been sent to Bernie Ecclestone, F1â€™s chief executive, World Health Organisation officials and various European Commissioners.

A ban on alcohol sponsorship would be disastrous for Formula Oneâ€™s already struggling teams. Force India, who are fighting to stay on the grid, would be particularly hard hit. No major sponsor has entered the sport on an hugely lucrative deal over the past two years, with money increasingly tight.

France has already banned alcohol sponsorship, while a leaked Labour Party document suggested they will look to do the same if they win power next May.
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minirab · Nov 13, 2014

&%#+@!(*#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrntd · Nov 14, 2014

Steve said: ↑

Remember when most of the teams threatened to quit F1 and start a separate series? I was never even sure whether it was just the usual "threaten something drastic to get attention and/or get your own way" tactic. I can't quite remember when that was but about once a year I wonder what would have happened if they'd done it.

Nathan's comment reminded me. Seems like Ferrari were one of the teams threatening to quit. If they'd gone through with it and Ferrari had played it like they do everything else they might have ended up with even greater preferential treatment than they get now...though still probably not triple points for their driver(s).
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Ferrari were part of it and the reason it collapsed. That's when Monaco told Bernie "no F1 race here without Ferrari". Bernie then cut the deal that gave Ferrari that extra money no one else gets.

If that series would have happened I think it would have been big teams with big money making cutting edge racing machinery. Money was only part of the gripe the other were the stupid rules. Nothing really changed.

Ferrari is the linch pin of the series F1 or an alternate one. Like it or not. When you look in the stands at every race you see one color more than any other. Ferrari Red.

minimark · Nov 14, 2014

Me thinks in the end Bernie and company would prefer a very small handful of teams that make up the entire F1 field, easier to control and the larger slices of the pie more filling....

Steve · Nov 14, 2014

Here's another bit of insight re Bernie's perspective. It's all about marketing and selling things...but only expensive things. If you're not interested in banking and can't afford a Rolex, Bernie isn't interested in you as a fan of F1.

Ecclestone: No point chasing young fans (gpupdate.net)

10:24 – Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone says there is "no point" in trying to reach out to a younger generation of fans, claiming that they are the wrong type of audience for the sport's established sponsors.

Amid declining television figures, F1 has faced calls to adopt a greater presence on social media channels such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube to better engage with young fans.

But Ecclestone reckons such a move would be a waste of time, the 84-year-old holding the belief that youngsters are of little value to F1 as a whole.

"I'm not interested in tweeting, Facebook and whatever this nonsense is," Ecclestone explained in an interview with Campaign Asia-Pacific magazine.

"I tried to find out but in any case I'm too old-fashioned. I couldn't see any value in it. And, I don't know what the so-called 'young generation' of today really wants. What is it?

"You ask a 15 or 16-year-old kid, 'What do you want?' and they don't know. The challenge is getting the audience in the first place."

"If you have a brand that you want to put in front of a few hundred million people, I can do that easily for you on television," Ecclestone added, when asked about the value of attracting a younger audience.

"Now, you're telling me I need to find a channel to get this 15-year-old to watch Formula 1 because somebody wants to put out a new brand in front of them? They are not going to be interested in the slightest bit.

"Young kids will see the Rolex brand, but are they going to go and buy one? They can't afford it. Or our other sponsor, UBS – these kids don't care about banking. They haven't got enough money to put in the bloody banks anyway.

"That's what I think. I don't know why people want to get to the so-called 'young generation'. Why do they want to do that? Is it to sell them something? Most of these kids haven't got any money.

"I'd rather get to the 70-year-old guy who's got plenty of cash. So, there's no point trying to reach these kids because they won't buy any of the products here and if marketers are aiming at this audience, then maybe they should advertise with Disney."
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Minidave · Nov 14, 2014

An implosion, that's what we're seeing.....

minimark · Nov 14, 2014

Bernie making Keith Richards look good.... Could this be why he has no interest in young folks?

minirab · Nov 14, 2014

What a db.

Steve · Nov 17, 2014

Apparently someone has been messing around on Wikipedia.

Stinker · Nov 18, 2014

The Interim McLaren Honda F1 car on track at Silverstone

mrntd · Nov 20, 2014

So who is going to take it? Hammy or Rosberg?

minimark · Nov 20, 2014

Brain says Hammy, heart says Rosberg!

minimark · Nov 20, 2014

Shall we all meet here at say 7:30ish am ET this Sunday morning for the 8:00am race?

ScottinBend · Nov 20, 2014

Depends......how big is the TV?

minimark · Nov 20, 2014

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