2014 - F1

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  1. Crashton

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    Going to be a good fight to the end. What Lewis really needs is a Nico DNF. Yep that will do it. To be quite honest I haven't noticed all the whining you say you have. This thread is where I hear about it. Thanks for the updates. :)
     
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    Not to worry, I read and follow much about the racing world so it will be my pleasure to keep you and everyone else up to date on on Lewis's regurgitations!!

    Actually I hope Hamilton suffers no more DNF's, Rosberg doesn't need them to win..

    Meanwhile Mr Ricciardo keeps impressing every race!!
     
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    Mark, when it's all said and done, I think Hamilton is gonna catch him. We'll see. but Hamilton's done it once, the pressure of F1 is ginormous (and Rosberg folded to it today), and all things being equal I'm betting on Hamilton's experience to be the difference.

    On another note, Lauda has said they're working on a new contract for Hamilton, I don't think he'll be leaving Mercedes anytime soon.

    On another another note, I applaud your passion, wether I agree or disagree with it isn't important. If more people had an opinion on F1, it wouldn't languish so much in the U.S.
     
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    When you grow up on tobacco road, rivalry is a way of life....lol

    Rosberg didn't fold today, Hamilton was just plain and simply faster at Monza, Nico pushed it but realized all he would gain was a worn out car and a possible DNF if he kept it up. Then he did the smart thing, he backed off, took the second place points and the lesson he learned...

    This is good stuff folks!!

    PS: Being a Tarheel, you just don't know how much I love to hate Duke...
     
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    Well, how's this for conspiracy theory.....

    Nico took the runoff twice, the first time he barely locked up and took it, but lost no time to the cars behind him, the second time, we didn't get to see it, but there was NO lockup, and he lost 6 seconds to Hammy. Hamster went from 2 back to 4 ahead......

    So, my theory is that was Nico's punishment, he had to give up the place to Hammy for what happened last race, and they did it that way so that the world didn't hear them tell Nico to let Hammy by......it wouldn't have been necessary if Hammy had gotten a good start, but since he didn't........

    The whole thing just looked fake to me.

    More and more F1 seems like the WWE of racing (Motto: It's not fake, it's STAGED), and will do anything for the show......
     
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    True, Hamilton was faster, but Rosberg blew it twice in the chicanes. If you make those type of mistakes when the pressure is on, I don't see a championship at the end of the year. Hamilton caught him because of the mistakes, not because he closed and passed, although there's a high chance he would have eventually anyway. Either way, should be an exciting finish to the year.

    One reason I'm a Hamilton fan--Ben Collin's book. The book itself is so-so, but there's some good stuff about Hamilton and Schumacher in there. Give them a crappy car and time them, and all of the sudden it becomes important--funny and very cool.
     
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    I've been wondering how long it would take for this to come up. For those who don't know, there are a LOT of people pushing this theory. I'm not surprised they seem to be in the minority but yeah, it's a thing. So much so that reporters have asked Toto Wolff about it.

    Wolff laughs off the Mercedes conspiracy theories (adamcooperf1.com)
     
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    Awwww........and here I thought I'd come up with something original!

    There is no way the Nice was "cracking under pressure"......sorry, I'm not buying it.
     
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    Don't think Nico locked up twice just to give Lewis the position, but that is when Nico realized that Lewis had indeed the better horse at Monza. Lewis was faster in practice, faster in qualifying, faster during the race and even had a faster pit stop... Nico didn't break under the pressure, he used his brain and raced smart.

    Do the math, all Nico really has to do is finish just behind Lewis to win. Lewis on the other hand has to race hard and hope he can draw Nico into making a mistake.

    Going to be fun to watch!!
     
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    I thought it was a some what boring race.

    Rosberg wasn't driving like himself. Hammy says it's because he can't handle the pressure. But he isn't the one the acts like a child when he doesn't win. I can see the allowed pass and of course Wolff denies it. But the camera showed what he thought.

    Hammy is a good driver and I'll give him respect for that. But I don't think he is a good team mate or a good sportsman. But then I thought the same about Senna and people disagree with me.

    Vettel didn't make it hard on Ricardo because he knows Ricardo has a chance (small one) at the title.
     
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    I don't buy the conspiracy thing. I think the pressure is getting to Rosberg, and mistakes tend to breed mistakes. Next race will be telling.
     
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    Just did some quick math (using the assumption of a 1-2 finish for Mercedes)...It appears that Lewis would need to take 5 of 6 of the remaining races, including the last one. :fingerscrossed:

    On a related topic....enjoyed seeing Ricciardo beat Seb again!
     
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    For me it wasn't a boring race. It was boring up front, but man back a bit the racing was hard & great. Even the person deciding what camera shot to use on TV didn't show the leaders that much. It was that good in the back.

    I don't think Nico cracked. Just a screw up that happens at times. For my money it was a smart move to straight line & save the tires. Later in the race when Lewis locked his tires so bad at the chicane I though why didn't you straight line & save the tires?

    Lewis really needs a DNF from Nico. All Nico needs to do is run at the pointy end of the field & keep collecting points. Hope to see some battles on track between the Benz boy's.

    Sure looked like Vettel threw the black at Ricciardo to me. Brilliant move to snooker Vettel for a fine clean pass. I don't believe for a minute that Vettel would do anything to make Ricciardo's life easier.

    What the heck is up with the guys in the tower & Magnuson? He races hard & clean yet gets penalties???

    Looking forward to Singapore.
     
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    Yep it could all come down to the double points race... But me thinks neither Ricciardo nor Nico are through winning this season..
     
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    You mean "NO lockup except for both back wheels which we clearly saw in the rear-view camera replay." ;)

    A few cars had taken that path during the GP2 and GP3 races before the main event, it's a tough braking area. Also, if Nico had flat-spotted his tires, then he'd either lose time every lap in the corners and lose the race, or have to pit again and lose the race.

    Hammy flat-spotted his tires at that point with 4 laps to go, still took the chicane and started losing time to Nico immediately. Luckily he'd built up enough of a lead that with only 4 laps he could afford to lose speed in the corners.
     
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    With all the crap that is going on in the world Nico's un-move fits right in.
     
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    Second all that (even the Senna bit).

    It's been my issue with Hamilton all along. I also think if he can keep his petulant (IMO) nature under control on the track and get his fair share of luck re equipment, etc, he's probably capable of beating Rosberg more often than not. But the fact I have respect for someone's talent doesn't mean I automatically like or respect him as a person.
     
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    Yes Senna was a very hard charger & took no prisoners on the track. He was really something behind the wheel, a supreme driver. In the day he was dislike by many. I was his fan, because of his talent behind the wheel & what he did for his countrymen. I did not like everything he did.

    After his death he became Saint Senna & no one remembers how ruthless he could be in a race.

    The same could be said about Saint Dale Earnhardt.
     
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    Yeah, I never understood all the hoopla around Dale Sr., more than once I saw him spin someone out in the last lap of the race and then sheepishly stand there in the winner's circle and say it was just one o them racin deals.....
     

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