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I'm sorry I think F1 in its present form sucks! I have trouble watching the races.

 

What we're seeing on the engine penalty side looks to me like a result of the dreaded Law of Unintended Consequences.

We all know, but forget, those rules were meant to stop manufacturers building engines good for only one or a few races. The thought was that if the engines last longer, less engines would be used and this should be much less expensive, esp. for teams needing to buy them.

The first obvious unintended consequence was probably predicted by some of the engine manufacturers. No one would be satisfied with an underperforming engine, and developing a reliable engine with anything near the performance levels they'd come to expect is an expensive endeavor. So, has the rule had an unintended effect opposite to that for which it was designed?

The second obvious unintended consequence is what we're seeing this year with some teams suffering from ridiculous and repetitive penalties already before the halfway point in the season. Remember, it was nothing like this last year during the very first season running these complex new power systems. Two completely unexpected things happened in this second year. 1 - A previously successful engine manufacturer, Renault, redesigned their underperforming engine and now it's also unreliable. 2 - A new contender entered F1, Honda, with a surprisingly underdeveloped engine.

I'm sure no one involved in development of the new engine rules expected them to have the sort of impact we're seeing now. The rules had one intent, to force the manufacturers to design in reliability. In hindsight now it can seem like those rules were destined to cause these unfair results but I'd bet most of those rules makers, if not all of them, are unpleasantly surprised by these completely unexpected and unintended consequences. They were trying to deter manufacture of unreliable engines and didn't anticipate accidentally poor designs.

Personal opinion here. This is yet another example of what happens nearly every time F1 tries to develop a new rule to solve a perceived problem. They're rules happy, and they don't spend enough time war-gaming potential outcomes. No one is able to envision every possible outcome but that by itself should be sufficient reason to hold back. I think every time the Strategy Group or whoever writes a new rule the teams should be allowed (and required) to repeal one. A group consisting of one rep from each of 5 teams, selected randomly, convene to nominate 3 rules for deletion, then ALL teams get one vote and ALL votes carry equal weight. Make that 2 deletions for every addition for the first 5 years. I know, it's too simple minded and ignores the fact that most rules changes are just that, changes, rather than entirely new additions. I don't care [/rant].

They also ought to consider this year as penalty enough for Renault and Honda and allow them a window for further development.

 

Get rid of DRS and push to pass!! let them use either gas or diesel engines, no hybrids! And bring back flat bottom cars.

 

Speculation?

Grosjean: Return of Renault is something pretty cool (grandprix247.com)

 

I know that they are trying to reduce coust in F1 so why not limited the budget. Just make a rule that you can only spend X amount per year for testing and the races. Make it an amount that all the teams can afford. Then unleash them to make the car they want. I want to see cars that are on the edg and drivers showing there talent. It's not fun to see one computer controlled car pass another one because the one behind gets to us DRS!
Look at old footage of the 90's where they had to take there hand off the wheel to shift. The steering wheel was always moving. You could see them working hard and showcasing their talent.
I know things changes but good racing is good racing. Oh and some of the drivers need to check their attitude

 

If they went back to flat bottom cars you could get closer because of the down force this would generate. You would not have to rely on the wings as much as modern cars do. Also let them have the big wings back.

Not sure but I do not believe that it would be going backwards.

 

Remember when they went to active suspension? It was a bit to much, so they got rid of it. I just believe we are at the same spot agin.

 

I like Kimi but I think you're right, his days at the top are numbered. We talk about Alonso and a few others who can take any car, no matter how cantankerous, and wring the most out of it, but I think Raikkonen needs a car to be set up exactly his way (whatever that is) or he isn't comfortable in it. My guess is Ferrari are erring on the side of Vettel's comfort level, and Alonso before him.

Whether that's true or not, there's probably a replacement in the works behind the scenes and, assuming Kimi is out, I'll be surprised if it isn't Vettel and Bottas next year.

 

I've seen a lot of rumors about Aston Martin getting ready to collaborate with Red Bull in F1. No one has confirmed any of that but there is a confirmed (?) connection between the two with Red Bull (via Adrian Newey) helping A-M to develop a hypercar.

Adrian Newey working on Red Bull road car with Aston Martin (autocar.co.uk)