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  1. Steve

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    #262 Steve, Mar 4, 2016
    Whether the new qualifying system proposal would be implemented, and in what form...and when, has been a mystery until now.

    You've seen the original proposal, apparently a lesser-evil proposal (less evil, that is, than Bernie's idea), and meant to start up in Melbourne. It needed to be approved by the WMSC. In the meantime, Bernie announced that the timing systems, etc, wouldn't be ready until a few races into the season. Just a few days ago the plan was altered a bit to use the knockout formula for Q1 and Q2 but revert to what we're used to for Q3.

    Today the WMSC met but since the recently revamped proposal hadn't yet made its way through the proper bureaucracy the only proposal they had to vote on was the original lesser-evil proposal with three full rounds of knockout qualifying. And that's what they approved.

    So, assuming it works the way it's supposed to we'll have two drivers on the track at the end, competing for pole. Bernie's company now claims the timing systems can be in place for Melbourne.

    Q1

    -16 minutes duration;

    - After 7 minutes, the slowest driver is eliminated;

    - Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag;

    - 7 drivers eliminated, 15 progress to Q2.

    Q2

    - 15 minutes duration;

    - After 6 minutes, slowest driver eliminated;

    - Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag;

    - 7 drivers eliminated, 8 progress to Q3.

    Q3

    - 14 minutes;

    - After 5 minutes, slowest driver eliminated;

    - Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag;

    - 2 drivers left in final 1 minute 30 seconds.


    I'm torn. Don't know whether to hope it works better than I expect or to hope it fails immediately and so miserably they decide to scrap it.
     
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    #263 Nathan, Mar 4, 2016
    While on paper it sounds relatively simple keeping track for anything but the most fervent fan I think will be difficult.
     
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    #264 Steve, Mar 4, 2016
    These are the final numbers for 2016 testing. Next up, Melbourne!

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    #265 Steve, Mar 4, 2016
    McLaren S-duct.

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    #266 Steve, Mar 9, 2016
    Excellent news!

    COTA confirms USGP return (racer.com)
     
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    #267 Zapski, Mar 9, 2016
    One of these days I'll make it down there for a race.
     
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    #268 Steve, Mar 9, 2016
    Looks like Nathan and Sully found the fix. :Thumbsup:
     
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    #269 mrntd, Mar 10, 2016
    Interesting how Merc gets away with theirs being outside the regulated area by having it in a false nose cover. Engineers will always figure away around the rules.
     
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    #270 Nathan, Mar 10, 2016
    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mq5r_8zT10"]F1 explained: Lewis Hamilton's driving position! - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    #271 Red Bull, Mar 10, 2016
    Sounds like how Porsche put another rear window over the factory rear window on the 935 for better aero.
     
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    #272 Steve, Mar 11, 2016
    I'm no expert, clearly, but it's hard to believe there's so much gained by running the rear wing pylon directly through the exhaust pipe that it's worth dealing with that sort of obstruction.

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    #273 Zapski, Mar 11, 2016
    So the mouse ears are there to increase the noise, which the mount in the middle is helping muffle.

    Shows what the teams care about, and it ain't noise.
     
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    #274 Steve, Mar 11, 2016
    New Austin deal delivers Formula 1 engine bonus (motorsport.com)
    Full article here.
     
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    #275 mrntd, Mar 14, 2016
    So I learned something new over the weekend. Turbo motors don't really save any fuel over NA motors in racing. Because in racing you are hard on the gas or hard on the brake there are very few places where you are not asking for all the horse power. To make the same power you need to burn the same amount of fuel.

    It makes perfect sense. I feel stupid for not realizing it before. Now maybe with the electric turbos it saves a little more. But for F1 we have all the cost and complication to project a "green" image that isn't really green.
     
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    #276 Zapski, Mar 14, 2016
    How many kilos of fuel did they carry in the NA days? If it was more than 100, then they're saving some fuel with this setup.
     
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    #277 Nathan, Mar 14, 2016
    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSUUFUGb9Q8"]2016 Australian GP Tyre Selections Examined - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    #278 Steve, Mar 14, 2016
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    #279 Steve, Mar 14, 2016
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    #280 mrntd, Mar 15, 2016
    They are saving fuel because of the increased use of electric motors. But gas motor to gas motor making the same hp basically takes the same amount of energy for the use of fuel.

    In street cars we save fuel because most of us aren't either full throttle or full brake. We aren't asking for full hp most of the time.
     
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    #281 Zapski, Mar 15, 2016
    Got ya. I misunderstood before.

    I've seen though that they have done something with the current motors that is making them more efficient overall. I suspect it's improved manufacturing etc. Less lost energy in each piston stroke, that kind of thing.
     
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