These days it's no longer about building the fastest car you can engineer - in any series I know of - the only limits they can push are those set by the series rules and regulations. Seems like a smart engineer with a bit of computer time could figure this out without putting the cars together on track.
Of course, that would be boring, just saying it's about as simple as running a simulation.
I'd love to see those cars running together and on more than one track to see how much difference it makes. Despite all the rule-based restrictions, I suspect the F1 cars would still have an edge, although the different ways they've gone about hybridizing the P1 cars makes them all strong in different areas of any given track and I would love to see how that plays out relative to other strong contenders.
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Steve AdministratorStaff Member Articles Moderator
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Just put them all in the exact same car, all built the same way, so the only difference is the driver.
The only thing the crew can do to the car is add fuel and put tires on period.
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I'd like to see an F1 car run for 24 hours. :lol:
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Kind of like Congress.
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This article that is spread over a rather annoying 12 pages compares The Mercedes W06 and Porsche 919. http://www.topgear.com/car-news/formula-one/showdown-porsches-wec-racer-vs-mercs-w06-f1-car#1
The 2015 Cars - Overall, in qualifying at Spa, the W06 was 7.57 seconds faster. The margin was smaller in the race, but that’s still a big gap: the LMP1 car would have been last on the F1 grid. The same story plays out across other circuits the two have visited: Silverstone, Shanghai, Bahrain and Austin. -
This question reminded me of a couple things from the past... back in the late 80's, early 90's IMSA GTP cars were faster than Indy cars because of the aerodynamics of closed bodywork vs open wheels.
Also, the FIA used to have some kind of regulation prohibiting holding certain races where there was a Grand Prix. They didn't want people to be able to directly compare the performance of a car to an F1 car. It was aimed mainly at CART/Champcar, because those were the only cars "similar" to the general public at the time. If they did run at the same track, the track layout had to change enough not to allow a direct comparison of lap times.
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I remember that, I think it was all about CART not being shamed. Could they have been haters?
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It was the other way around... the FIA was protecting the image and appeal of F1. That's why they were restricted to running only on ovals outside of NA, except for Australia for some reason. Then some accusations of the FIA being a possible monopoly came up so they started relaxing things. That's when Champcar was able to start running road races around the world.
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Hmmm, wonder how the Brexit is going to change F1. All those mechanics that freely move around the current E.U. may not be able to do so anymore.
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Minidave Well-Known MemberLifetime Supporter
Google search results this am make it look like most of the people who voted to leave had no idea what they were actually voting for!
Now I read that they're trying to get a referendum going to repeal the referendum they just passed.
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British people to get Button referendum
The government has confirmed today that the British public will be given a vote on whether Jenson Button stays within the McLaren team in a controversial poll already dubbed ‘Buttxit’.
‘For too long JB has had to live under the restrictive regime of the failing McLaren organisation,’ explained a spokesman for the Buttxit camp. ‘Every year McLaren pays Jenson £10m and if we vote Leave that money could be spent on the NHS or some other fictional claim we’re going to renege on immediately.’
‘JB needs to take back control and regain his sovereignty,’ the Buttxit spokesman continued. ‘Although what I’m really doing is using meaningless statements to mask the fact I secretly hate people from Surrey.’
‘The Buttxit camp talk about all the benefits of leaving McLaren,’ countered a leading Jenstay campaigner. ‘But these are all highly theoretical and there is no guarantee of an increase in punditry, Le Mans drives, and being able to open a Honda dealership like Derek Warwick.’
‘Experts are already warning that a Buttxit could set the team back 50 years,’ noted a McLaren insider. ‘Which would be a welcome performance boost for us.’ -
Steve AdministratorStaff Member Articles Moderator
Halo 2, apparently, and it looks like they're demonstrating it with a toddler in the seat.
Not that there's much to see here but I think I read they were already up to a final version. If so, expect more pics to follow.
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Steve AdministratorStaff Member Articles Moderator
McLaren have gone a bit crazy with their rear wing end plates.
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Steve AdministratorStaff Member Articles Moderator
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I thought Massa's accident was also a reason for the head protection... it looks like the spring would have gone right through the large openings in the halo, too. It looks like F1 is rushing to implement the wrong form of protection for the upcoming season. It'll be ugly, but the canopy with a more substantial frame like the halo would probably be the safest.
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... Ok then.
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Wow, that has got to be one of the silliest drivers suit I've ever seen.
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Crashton Club Coordinator
When they pay you that kind of money they can dress you how they see fit.
ut: They seem to have outdone Rahal's stupid Steak 'n Shake suit.
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