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  1. Steve

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    Ribbed, but why? RB, by the way.

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    Test Day 2 results:

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    It took me a second to figure that pic out!
     
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    Liberty is living up to its name with a relaxation of social media in the paddock regulations.

    Oy, this is giving Bernie fits.

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZBR-4usE4"]F1 Test Barcelona 2017 - Lewis Hamilton In The Mercedes W08 Live Garage Video - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Wow. Just...

    Bernie should be rolling over in his grave.

    You might note I said 'should' there...take that however you like.
     
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    "For her pleasure" of course. :ihih:

    Probably for heat management really.
     
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    Right, but it must be a significant benefit to be worth the additional weight. They wouldn't take an existing wheel and remove material to make those ridges, it would weaken the wheel. They've added material, and F1 teams scrounge for weight savings by the gram. Adrian Newey is a smart guy, though, so it's probably worth the weight penalty. After all, the brakes are larger this year and will be generating more heat so they need to do something and every solution probably adds weight somewhere.

    I wonder whether other teams are looking at these wheels and cursing themselves for choosing more complex (though more traditional) heat abatement solutions.
     
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    If solely heat management, am surprised ducting and perhaps a bladed wheel design to better draw through air (a la Enkei wheels back in the '90s) isn't adequate.
    Am thinking about how ridges or creases are added to panels to produce strength.
    Wondering whether or not the ribs provide not only strength, but also act like a heat sink.

    Then again, maybe they are just messing with us…


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    I'm not sure that removing a small amount material would lower the structural safety of the wheel.

    Look at swords: There is a fuller (often wrongly called a blood groove) on swords that has the dual purpose of lightening the sword and strengthening it as well due to the increased surface area. The sword gains flexibility as well, so that when thrust, it springs rather than bending, like a sword with a diamond cross section would do.

    I don't see why the same principle couldn't be applied here, since those ridges don't look too deep.

    Of course I know that swords and wheels don't undergo the same kinds of stresses, and to be honest if I were going to do something like that on a wheel I'd make the ridges spiral a little rather than be totally radial so that there'd be some reinforcement on the radial axis, but I'm also not an engineer.
     
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    f1technical.net is saying heat dissipation.
     
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    Maybe they should use those 21" spinner wheels, huh?
     
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    This comparison GIF makes the Williams look pregnant.

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    Heat sink.
     
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    End of Day 3 and Bottas' time is nearly 2sec under the track lap record set in 2008 (Raikkonen, 1:21.670). In fact, the top 4 are all under that mark.

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    Williams rookie Stroll has crashed twice so far this week, both times causing Williams to end running for the day.

    Proving yet again that the F1 world puts you squarely in the limelight - and not always in a good way - https://hasstrollcrashedyet.com/ (has stroll crashed yet) already exists.
     
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    The heat sink wheels could also work the other way, helping to keep heat in the tires.......

    Speaking of tires - and understanding that we have no idea about fuel loads and such - interesting to see Vettel within 2 tenths of Bottas' time while on the harder tires.
     
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    Hey Ferrari...whatcha hiding?

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2eJiqKzJ2g"]F1 2017 | Barcelona Test 1, Day 3 - The recovery of Sebastian Vettel's Ferrari SF70H - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjp2a2DqFtE"]Bottas Fastest, Stroll Hits The Wall | F1 Testing 2017, Day 3 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  20. Steve

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    I really like this idea, but that may be because I'd be happy if ALL races were non-championship.

    Brawn considers reviving non-championship F1 races to test new ideas (motorsports.nbcsports.com)
    Seems like it would be tough to convince teams to play along given championship position is worth so much money. They'd need significant incentive like maybe increasing the purse and applying it to all finishing positions. Could deduct those winnings proportionally from the end of season pot and pay out right away.

    I just like the idea of watching drivers racing for the sake of the race itself without regard to affect on their championship positions and team strategies based entirely on the end of the race rather than the end of the season.