Brakes Wheels 1st Gen Tires 225/40/18 on 06 GP?

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    gp89 New Member

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    Will a 225/40/18 fit on a stock GP wheel? Or will there be major issues with rubbing?
     
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    I have not installed 225 but based on my 215 tire it will be close on the rear inside. I installed 215/40 and there was about a 5mm clearance on the rear inside. With 225 you will be, at most, adding 5mm width on each side of the wheel but actually probably less than 5mm when a 225 tire is installed on the 7" GP wheel. My guess is that the 225 will not rub.

    Most places, such as Tire Rack, do not suggest a 225 tire on a 7" wheel.
     
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    Sorry to bring back a old topic...
    I had 215/40/18 Conti DW and killed my 205/40/18 Super Sports. I became a beliver of Super Sports now, what does anyone think of 215/40/18 Hankook V12 EVO2 on our cars?

    My Conti were soft sidewalls, and heard the same for Hankook... Any ideas?

    Jim
     
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    I had the previous generation of Hankook V12 EVOs 215/40-18 on my GP before going to the 215/40-18 Michelin PSS. I like the Michelin PSS better for all around handling. However, I know you are asking about the EVO2s which I have not tried and are suppose to be better than the original EVOs.
    Every tire test/comparison I have read shows the PSS better than the EVO2. However, the EVO2s are less expensive.
    Even through the PSS are more expensive, I have found that they wear much better than the EVOs so the cost difference isn't as much as you would think.
     
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    18's on a MINI is just silly if you track the car. You would be better of with 15 or 16's for less weight per corner.
     
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    If memory serves, there are light 17 or 18 inch wheels which may weigh less than a typical 16.
    Also, like it or not, aesthetics play into some people's considerations.
    In addition, regrettably, there are other considerations in addition to wheel weight.
    Among those other considerations would be clearance between the wheel and brake set up.
    Good luck…



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    For me, style of the wheel is everything. I wouldn't put a wheel I didn't like on my car even if it was the lightest one in the world.
     
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    Did you both miss that I said "TRACK'"? I don't care about the "Stance" look.
     
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    The Michelin, Conti, and Hankook in this thread are all street tires and work on the OEM GP wheels. Of these, PSS are the best option, plenty of reviews and surveys confirm this.

    205/40 and 215/40 both work. 225/40 would have too much sidewall, and would be too wide on a 7" rim. Maybe 225/35, but still not a good idea when you have better choices available.

    For track, you definitely would go a different direction like Dave said with a dedicated set of smaller/lighter wheels and track focused tires. But I think that's a different topic. Although every GP deserves a little track time :Thumbsup:
     
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    Cool, didn't realize if you were tracking it, a 15 would fit where it wouldn't fit if you're only going to use the car on the street… This is great information to know :)

    All kidding aside… What Dave is saying is absolutely spot on: For dedicated track use the lightest wheel possible is usually the way to go. With the GP, you might find a 16 that fits.



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    I hate my Run Flat Tires

    I have a Mini Countryman with the run flat tires. 225/45R18. I am getting killed with blown tires and bent rims on these crappy roads in NY. Has anyone switched to regular tires and if so what kind would you recommend.
     
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    Typically with 225's on an R53 (in any diameter), you're gonna need to play with spacing, and often ride height. And will likely have some rubbing on the inner edge of the wheel arch trim. Some people care about that, others let it wear itself in and ignore it.

    I run 225/45R15 and 225/45R16 setups, and have a BBK that's compatible with this... but I also run waaaaaay more wheel gap than many appearance-conscious folks consider acceptable, due to massive spacing requirements to clear my suspension. Yet the car is as low as I would ever want it... thanks, small wheels!
     
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    Yes, almost everyone has switched from Run Rocks to regular tires.

    You can get the same size and just pick the brand and type you want based on price point you want to pay.

    No one tire is for everyone.
     
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    Has anyone found a donut spare that fits under the floor of their countryman when they had factory run flats?
     
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    Why is a doughnut needed if they have run flats?
     
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    I think because after 50 miles or so the runflat is dead. A donut spare will get you farther down the road.
     
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    I disagree with the 16" rim advice for the track. There are more performance tire options for 17" rims that fit the MINI spec.

    Also, as long as you can get your wheel weight down to 17lbs or less your doing great as far as unsprung corner weight. There are plenty of 14-18 lb wheel options in the 17" size for MINIs.

    Frankly the strength and heat dissipation (hub and brakes) of the wheel are more important during track days. That helps deal with rough impacts from "off course excursions", prevents overheated brake fluid and cooking wheel bearings.
     
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    Please define 'better'...
    I'm guessing that each person has a different definition of 'better' based upon their individual needs.
    From me and my usage, I don't drive 1010s or even 9/10 on the regular basis. I'm willing to give up a little bit of handling in order to get a little better treadwear and better handling in less than ideal environmental conditions.
    I can run Pilot Super Sports year-round and get a whole year of wear out of them; the treadwear warranty is nice too.
    That's the great thing about tires: Everybody can usually find exactly what they want.


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    ''Better'' to me is grip / traction.

    I don't care about mileage, ride quality, sound or any of that other crap.
     

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