1st Gen R50 Cooper Most liked posts in thread: ANYONE build a r50 engine yet??

The need for tune after any mods is always a suggested recomendation... but not a requirement. I would think that you have run the NS1 on a r50 to see if there was any issues , befor you tune it?? Yes??

Ok... the truth is that IF you want a good solid HP increase and more torque.. it IS Nitrous!! This is a known and trusted power builder since the late 70's. These two Yahoos ( DaveO-Camaro ) are just in denial!! This Nitrous Oxide is SO effective it is Banned at almost every kind of automotive racing because of ITs Huge gains above and beyond the basic or advanced engine building! The Two detractors here on this thread are the usual followers of a different camp. AND if you dont use that camps product you are an idiot. ( really???lol)

Reground camshafts have been around since the 40"s and a highly used procedure on many a full racing team and cars. The use of a Hyd roller lifter has increased the reliability of a good quality camshaft that has been 'reground ' for a different spec. It also saves the cost of the core and that cost savings can be passed on to the user. OR in some instances a grinder can go cheaper on the core and the camshaft will fail!!

A good quality core would not have failed as this core did.. even IF the quality core has been 'reground'. If it is the fact that the base circle will be altered.. the NEWMAN/ Cat/ NS / RMW cams all alter the base circles off the OEM spec.. again, ( one example is the Schrick cam..and you have to 'clearance the Spark Plug tube' for that spec to clear) the hyd roller lifter allows certain reductions with NO bad effects.

Using the Air fuel ratio.. the knock sensor .. ign timing.. as a guide, I do NOT have my engine tuned for any mods!! Cam..?? Nope!! Head...? Nope!! Exhaust and Header??.. Nope.
My data logs show a 11.4:1 AF at 7500 revs on the engine and 10.2 :1 AF at 7800 on the bottle. I do not profess to be a tuner or even close.. just telling you what I have . There is no reason that others can not be doing the same.. 'cept for these two cool aid drinking know it all Trolls.

Anyone can go back and see if ANY of these two yahoos have actually helped anyone.. directing to a vendor is good!! But to continue to show there huge gains in Knowledge, or the basic fact that they have no idea on what they are talking about is totally comical.. " It is better to be thought Stupid. Than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!" These two are the meaning of that statement.

ANY engine builder will advise on how to get more power from a 1.6 ltr engine with NO turbo or SC. ANY ENGINE BUILDER!! Yes the trans isnt a hurkey Mutha, and care needs to be taken. It amazes me that these two great men with all this knowledge on how to TROLL, can not help this some facts of their own... LOL they have nothing because they BOUGHT it all!!

Cam.. ( NS1), Head.. (TPR1), Adjustable Cam gear, .. Header exhaust .. will all allow good solid gains!! Tune will allow it all to work better together. BUT.. Nitrous Oxide will surpass ANY AND ALL mods you can do or have done!! ( Did I go to fast for you 3 jerks??) , Again I have to assume that you do understand the strength of the Trans ( unless you are of the two pea-brains)

Dont be twisted by these trolls!! Just get some ideas, call and see whom you want.. IF money is no issue, then the trolls have directed you to a good source. LOL

Thanks for the Posts...

Just saying....................................

Thumper



Base engine with no mods.. 147 WHP ( Dyno jet) and then a bit of spray on a un-tuned 06 r53. Test is over 5 years old.
254 WHP and 237 Tq. NOS system cost only $375.00!!
Engine is now at 287 WHP and still on the streets!! SO, listen to the Dave and Camaro, or think for yourself.. cool?

 

30 whp is 30 whp.. the guy said he does not want to run Nitrous, get over it!!

Just saying...........................

Thumper

 

Ok you guys.. wake up. This IS 2012 NOT 1970!!
Any power adder is only as good as the intelligence of the applier, yes??

Take the 'weak' r50, add a cylinder head, add a camshaft, add a tune.. and get ( lets say) 30 whp increase in out put.
Now take that same 'weak' r50 and just add a 30 HP Nitrous Jet. WTF??
Cost.. Head / cam / tune = $1965.00 to $2850.00 ( depending on whos parts)
Or.. Nitrous kit: $400.00

If you have no desire to run the bottle, then dont... This person decided NOT to, so that pretty much ends that.

Just adding..............................

Thumper

PS: actually there are 20 WHP systems out there!!

Top Gear (UK) put a system on an old worn out Jag, and beat the pants off a BMW/ Porsche/ Ferrari !! and then drove the Old Jag off the track. They were showing that 150K-250K can be beat in a 2K Nitrous fed Junker. Just a thought. I think it was Hammond that added the Nitrous. It was a good episode.

 

All are great points!! I am still waiting for my 06 to destroy its self.. , this poster said he isnt going Nitrous. YOU must be attempting to make a point a in here somewhere?? yes?? ( This IS 2012 NOT 1970 )

Just me........ yawn...yawn.....

Thumper

 

That is the best way....!! My r53 is pretty stout on the engine, and still manage 30+ MPG at fast hiways speeds. Town and street lights are no issue either.

On a good sat nite I might spray 5-8 times, depends on what is out that nite. Hiway drives , I have to be ready for the Mustang or EVO, by having the bottle turned on... if not I manage still to have fun on the engine.
( I usually try and choose opponents that have a big brag factor, and are fast competition. And the bottle is the great equalizer.. there are a lot of times I dont even use it..lol)

I used to say...' built is fast, then spray it faster'!! As I do not have the desire to build another 1000 WHP nitrous BBF any more.

This post was about a good power builder, and as stated, there IS nothing better than laughing gas!! Is it for everyone.. NOPE!! but it amazes me how people can dis something so simple and cheap to run with outstanding results. Also it is a simple install that anyone can do. IF you dont like it, that is cool. But it is out there and a LOT of ricers don't seem to have any issues using it!! LOL

Just saying..................

Good Day!

Thumper

 

I think you made my point!! LOL

Oh as for the r50 on the bottle.. I know of a few that have a lot of fun on the spray....

Dave O , sorry I am done with your petty little snipes and showing your age and automotive intelligence.. lol Find another one of my posts to try and look smart in!! Oh..Oh.. there is one on water meth you can dabble in !! LOL

ZZZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee YA

Just me...........................

Thumper

 

Cha-Ching..!! Got ya huh?? LOL

Your friend and close neighbor always..

Thumper!