1st Gen R50 Cooper ANYONE build a r50 engine yet??

Well, I hope I haven't opened up a big shitstorm here. Money certainly is an object, and I'm not interested in running nitrous. I'm not looking to build the worlds fastest r50, just want to be able to accelerate a little quicker, and maybe climb hills without having to redline in third and say a prayer. I appreciate all the info and opinions, and will consider everything. I hope some r50 owners with camshafts, heads, or tunes will turn up before this thread gets locked!

 

I do have a "Jan Tune" as it's called on my R50 engine. Granted I only picked up 7-8 HP and TQ peak, BUT there were areas within the curve that I gained 15 ft lbs. I now have a whopping 113 HP and 113 Ft Lbs... at a cost of about $450 for the tune/dyno time... Been on the car for about 5 years and 80,000 miles and still kicking.. I do have a DDM CAI, and Megan Racing cat-back.. both installed before tune.. Maybe with a good cam you could pick up another 8-10 HP MAYBE, which would put you in the 120-125 HP area.. and $800- $1000 spent range depending on cam install rate, and which cam you buy... Just not much power to be gained in the R50 engine at any price really.. So it just depends on what you want and how much money your willing to spend to get it..

 

FYI~
The rods are so weak and thin in the R50 first shot of nitrous will put them out the front of the block. The R50 motor is not the R53 motor.

Money is a object to me, so that is why I went with tested and proven parts. I like to buy parts that work and are reliable year in and year out.

Just saying....................................:devil:

 

Exactly... the whole lower half of the motor is not built as strong as the R53.... not a good foundation for certain applications like nitrous.

 

Nitrous nuff said

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Some people should re-read a post before they post it. The only point you made was mine.

" It is better to be thought Stupid. Than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!"

Some people should stick with 70's motors and toy with Saturday night Mustangs getting them to "Cam-up".

Just me ..................

 

we are calling to the fact that nitrous is a surefire death knell for a stock R50 motor and your the one who has been crowing about how nitrous is the only way to go...

 

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Jason

 

Nitrous is NEVER the way to go.... ........ .... ... . .. . .rrr:

 

Yayyyyy lets install NOS with intake and exhaust ports the size of coffee stirs :frown2: you are trying way to hard to push the "Power on a Budget". There is no such thing there are only 3 ways to go about getting power NA or FI.

1 Good and Cheap won't be fast but will last a long time.
2 Fast and Cheap won't last but will be fast for a limited time and cost 2 times as much to fix.
3 Good and Fast won't be cheap but will be very fast and last a very long time.

 

What you are missing in the whole argument is this:
adding a 50shot is INSTANT..........that shock load is much more damaging than adding 50hp at the top of the rpm range when all components are moving fast. This is called mechanical efficiency. Twisting parts at low rpms is what breaks things.

Having a true understanding of how it all works together is key. For arguments sake 50hp is 50 hp but how that 50hp destroys your car is a different story...........

Food for thought!

 

Thumper, not trying to start anything but how often do you actually hit the Nitrous Button..
I for one have no use for NOS on a street car that is my daily driver. I'd prefer to spend more money for the parts to make the same power and be able to use it all day, all thru the gears... Not just when I hit the button... Just my .02

 

Nitrous is the poor mans way to add a burst power for the sort time. Example: 11.16 @ 123.1 mph on pump gas and 2600lbs :ihih::lol:
Anyone that knows anything knows in the long term it will destroy a motor just like the stupid "sport" of drag racing itself. Nitrous is a 1/4 mile thing ONLY.

What is the end destination of most real dragracing cars at the end of a 1/4 mile...... "The Pits" for a rebuild. :lol::devil:

Intelligent people do not instal Nitrous on a DD.


Thumper why dont you take an R50 stock and add a 30 shot of Nitrous and see how far you get? I bet you would be lucky to roll an 8th of a mile after you hit the button. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

Just from reading or trying to read all your posts and your inability to form basic sentences I would never take advice from a person like you and would NEVER do business with you.

The lack of respect you show for anyone else’s opinions is unbelievable. Most of your posts are attacks of other M/A members, tuners and manufactures.

You are an old guy that likes to call people names and stand on a box saying “Look at me I go Saturday night Street racing on “hiways” with Nitrous. Good Job Buddy! :crazy:

By the way they are called HIGHWAYS. :frown2::lol:

I like most others in the entire MINI community we are all done with you. Please take you and your crap CAMs that "Mis" more than they work and other products and just go away.

We all know you are full of hot air or in this case NOS.


Just Me…………………………….

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