Suspension Brakes 1st Gen Most liked posts in thread: AST Shock Failure

did the first one fail the same way?

 

If I remember correctly the first one failed due to a clearance issue with the camber plates. I know of another failed for similar reasons. On the other hand the set I've been running, first with IE Camber plates that were clearanced, an d now with the TSW plate have seen no clearance issues. The front shock shafts are inspected often. There are also dozens if not more sets of these running around the US with no issues at all. Before condemning the the product find the reason for failure.

 

if you're running IE plates, umm, buck up and spend some $$$. Those things are POS....I spent more time 'clearancing' them than installing. They didn't stay on my car long.

 

i look forward to hearing more about this. AST 5200's are on my short list of coilovers for my race car build. from Vorshlag's website, "CAMBER PLATES : We highly recommend Vorshlag camber plates be used with AST strut kits". i guess that we know why they make this recommendation.....

w/ camber plates and one set of springs, the 5200's are about $1250 a corner. i don't have a lot of info on MINI applications for the JRZ's, but onasled has them on his car. i don't think that you can get Moton clubsports at $1000/corner.

glad that you weren't injured and that the car will live to fight again.

edit: after spend some time on Vorshlag's site, i see that the shafts in the 5000 series are much larger than the 4000 series. i would be comfortable w/ the 5000's and Vorshlag's camber plates.

 

it appears this failure isn't AST's issue but rather caused by IE plates and an unheeded warning NOT to run the two together

 

i'm not sure that Vorshlag had camber plates for the MINI when the OP bought these coilovers. these were, i believe, the AST's previously offered by TSW (4000 series?). correct me if i am wrong.

 

The current Vorshlag Camber Plate is the one TSW previously had. There is a new and improved TSW Camber Plate under development.

 

thanks for the clarification, nathan. i sent a link to this thread to Vorshlag and asked for their response. hopefully they will chime in.

 

I'm right aren't I (and the truth hurts)?

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not a relevant question for this thread

 

Don't be bothered by PGT, he is just stirring the pot. :arf:

Have you asked TSW about their new KW set?

 

I'll chalk this one up as "I'm right" :lol:


and wow, nice attitude. I've been outside all day, working on the car. :cornut:

 

Meanwhile...

I can't tell from the picture, but was the break a clean shear? Are there grooves or bends or necking from previous stress? What kind of noise does that make when it goes, or does everything just get loose?

 

Ok, now that we are past the beat each about the head an neck portion of this thread can we get to the root cause please?

Roach, can you post some pictures of the shock and the camber plates please?

Also what brand of plates are you running?

What are the alignment specs?