1st Gen R53 Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: Bouncing Tensioner?

  1. Dr Obnxs

    Dr Obnxs New Member

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    Now Jeremy

    with info like that out there, how will I ever sell more glossy renderings?

    Anyway, the way to find that out is to take one apart and see. Work back from the dimensions. While it's got a decent life, it's not the best made part on the car....

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  2. jhiggs26

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    Oops sorry Matt. I was hoping somebody had one in hand and had the part #(Keith perhaps). I've yet to see one fail-yet. Probably a good call to change the idler bearing or whole pulley and bearing while doing a belt change around 75-100k as a matter of course.

    I'm sure if you offer up a lighter rendering and keep parasitic drag to a minimum with a larger more stout bearing then people will flock to it!

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    Sometime I'll take mine off to check...

    I screwed around with the model a bit. Even built a roller bearing that can take axial loads!
    [​IMG]

    And a print out of this vaporware will be very, very light! As far as minimizing mass, I'm not any good at the FEA part of the software. Most aftermarket guys tend to overbuild for just this reason. This design uses two roller bearings, and a spacer so you'll be able to torque the crap out of the mounting bolt and not screw it up. But as of now, it's just an idea....

    Matt
     
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    I'll look.

    The idler bolt fastens to the timing chain cover made of thin aluminum, it can't be tightened excessively.
     
  5. Dr Obnxs

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    Guess I'll have to make....

    some really good vaporware bolts too!

    Matt
     
  6. BlimeyCabrio

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    When you machine mine, don't cut out that pie slice, otherwise I'm afraid my bouncing tensioner problem might recur.
     
  7. Dr Obnxs

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    It comes pre-cut...

    but don't worry, I include some krazy-glue so you can put it all back together!

    But without the cut-away, you can't see how good a job I did on the vaporware bearings! And the vaporware crush sleeve in the center would never be seen. That would just be a crime....

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    Thanks and no rush at all Keith.

    Yes no need to exceed torque spec. As long as the inner race is secure the path of least resistance will take hold.

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    LOL - nice.

    Glad the idler was the culprit and easily fixed!
     
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    NTN bearing: 6203 LHA

    I took a look at my new oem idler pulley and the bearing is NTN 6203-LHA
    Hope it helps. Looks like VW/Audi use it for the same application too.

    BEARING P/N 6203-LHA
    COMMENTS 2 Rubber seals, 2 x O-Rings
    I / D MM 15
    O / D MM 40
    W MM 12
     
  11. jhiggs26

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    Alrighty then. An off the shelf 6203! Same bearing for one of the snout bearings and both front rotor pack bearings in our M45's, minus the seals.

    Jeremy