Way makes a nice looking one, ducts replace the fog lights, but it doesn't direct air directly to the hub. Better than nothing though.
Minimania makes one that attaches underneath the car--the ducts should only be on at the track, not for everyday driving. The ducts hook up to a modified dust plate that directs air directly to the hub.
What isn't available is a kit that is permanent like the Way, and directs air directly to the hubs like the Minimania kit. It can be done as a DIY though.
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the way's look good, there is a little dremeling required though, which is not the case for the mm however chances are the mini mania system will get ripped off during street driving. not sure about actual performance or how it compares to mini manias
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Not that it's a big deal--if you're wanting to install brake ducts, you're willing to cut a lot of your car away. I'm so beyond worrying about getting the dremel, or the angle grinder and putting it to my car. -
cct1, yes that is a good idea. A big problem though is that you would have to buy both kits to piece it together DIY. Both of these kits are way overpriced as it is, damn. They are just stupid expensive for the components you get. Then of course, you would have to connect the end of the Way hard duct to a flexible duct to get to the backing plate.
Obviously, for the Way duct inlet install in the bumper cover there would be some cutting required to mount it. So, is this the only 'dremelling' required, or were you referring to something additional?
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The modified dust plates are available separately, then it's just a matter of connecting the rectangular WMW duct end with the round Mini Mania end. Oh yeah, and routing it all so the suspension and drive shafts don't interfere.
This may be a case where a cobbled together kit is more effective than trying to marry the two. Vader on Metroplex Mini did just that with bits from a roundy round shop and a spare set of dust shields. The results are effective and not at all kludgy looking.
Caveat, for those that live where it actually gets cold more than one day in the winter may have issues with directing that much air to the brakes of street driven car. Exp on a cold, rainy day. -
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Some pics of Way's kit:
No rotor warpage or hot spotting or pad transfer last time out, and the rotors were thin since they were cut. I'm satisfied with it - don't know if I'll try to get the tube from the outlet to the rotor. Maybe one day.
I have the black surrounds from aesthetic creations to go around the inlet to make it look cleaner, but I really don't think I need it.
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Also, thanks for the pics. Now it is easy to see that the duct exit to the general direction of the caliper, and not the rear section of the rotor as does the Mania kit.
BTW, I thought those inlets were for the standard bumper cover, not the Aero kit bumper?? I thought that an aero bumper inlet would fit more precisely and actually be a little bigger. -
Some more images of install...
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The problem with the ducts I've seen is the functionality. From an aero and pressure point of view, too many kinks in the duct reduce the effectiveness of the duct. You can get away with more if you are at sustained high speeds, but at the medium speeds the mini will likely see, at a track day, the ducts design leave a bit to be desired.
I have to say, some ducts are better than none and there are a lot of obstacles so it will be a compromise. I have a couple of blocks of foam sitting here waiting to get carved into some plugs for molding a set of ducts, but the project keeps getting pushed to the back burner. -
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Without any data from your scientist, we cannot assume how the tests were carried out. What velocities were these tests conducted out at? Was it a moving plane or fixed tunnel? Would said aero jet rocket scientist like to join our conversation and present their thermal pictures and data for the community to view so we can better understand their data? -
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Maybe one day when I'm a more serious track driver, I'll look into getting everything hooked up to the rotor.
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Pshaw! Like a newb with 21 posts could know anything about this...
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Some more install images. This is into an Aero bumper cover with the intent of having the ducts molded in to look OEM.
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Very professional and very OEM looking Nathan, great job.
And if you wanted to keep the inlet area black and the rest of the bumper did not need a spray, you could just carefully focus on that specific area, do the cutting, fiberglass/filling/etc, then just rattle can that inlet area black.
Very nice Nathan.
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