1st Gen R53 Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: Catch can cause problems?

  1. smokintires

    smokintires New Member

    Feb 11, 2014
    71
    46
    0
    Ratings:
    +46 / 0 / -0

    Hmm I don't recall saying I don't check it, I check the dipstick quite often. But gathering 60 bucks and an hour of free time is a different story, I had known the oil was spent long ago. And that's enough with you all fighting about alta, and this ass that I quoted. All I wanted was some info, not opinion wars and belittling
     
  2. ScottinBend

    ScottinBend Space Cowboy
    Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    8,767
    2,547
    113
    Bend, OR USA
    Ratings:
    +2,678 / 1 / -0
    ....yes it does.


    :p
     
  3. Firebro17

    Firebro17 Dazed, but not Confused
    Lifetime Supporter

    Sep 18, 2010
    7,820
    3,327
    113
    Retired CAL FIRE Battalion Chief
    The Great Irrigated Desert of Central CA
    Ratings:
    +3,328 / 0 / -0
    :popcorn::beer
     
  4. jiminni

    jiminni Well-Known Member

    May 7, 2009
    1,592
    262
    83
    Ca.
    Ratings:
    +262 / 0 / -0
    Me thinks I need to stay out of this thread :postcount
     
  5. ScottinBend

    ScottinBend Space Cowboy
    Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    8,767
    2,547
    113
    Bend, OR USA
    Ratings:
    +2,678 / 1 / -0
    :Thumbsup:


    :cornut:
     
  6. jerryb2005mcs

    jerryb2005mcs New Member

    Jan 13, 2013
    85
    70
    0
    Sr. Technical Consultant for company in the energy
    Spokane, WA
    Ratings:
    +70 / 0 / -0
    I've got an M7 oil catch can on mine from the previous owner. I haven't noticed any problems with it or had any vacuum leaks (that I know of!).
    Was this done as a cosmetic thing then? Honestly not sure how to service the dang thing either.
    This thread has actually raised more questions than answers for me.

    Such as; is a catch can necessary or not? And if you have one, is it doing more harm than good? How would you be able to tell?
     
  7. Jason Montague

    Jason Montague New Member
    Lifetime Supporter

    Jan 5, 2010
    6,134
    1,588
    0
    Physician Assitant (retired)
    Sherman,Tx
    Ratings:
    +1,588 / 0 / -0
    :cornut: 1. Yes the catch can must be emptied or all of the dinosaur snot just goes back into the air intake which is what the catch can is trying to prevent. 2. On R50, 52, 53s catch cans aren't nearly as important as they are on R56s. Prior to R56s the MINIs had indirect fuel injection so the intake valves were cleaned by the fuel air mixture. R56s have direct injection to the combustion chamber such that the only thing bathing the intake valves is watery/oily blow by from the crank case and else where resulting in carbon build up. So indirect injection=catch can not important. Direct injection= catch can important.:Thumbsup:

    Jason
     
  8. rkw

    rkw Well-Known Member

    May 7, 2009
    1,253
    443
    83
    San Francisco
    Ratings:
    +449 / 0 / -0
    Exactly those questions have never been definitively answered, anywhere.

    Asking those questions in an automotive forum often launches mudslinging debates that end up with the thread being locked.
     
  9. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Helix & RMW Powered
    Lifetime Supporter

    May 4, 2009
    25,021
    13,497
    113
    Burbs of Philly, PA
    Ratings:
    +14,644 / 10 / -4
    I clean my IC with acetone every Spring to clean out the little bits of dirt inside. It also gets rid of anything coating the fins of the IC.

    Take of IC.

    Seal off one end with a plastic bag taped to the outside.

    Pour in Acetone and slowly shake and look for any possible leaks that could cause a boost leak.

    Remove and air dry and reseal IC back to horns with new OEM rubber IC boots.
     
  10. MCS02

    MCS02 Moderator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2009
    11,306
    6,278
    113
    Male
    Ratings:
    +8,071 / 10 / -3
    But the red ALTA ones look better!!!! :devil:
     
  11. Jason Montague

    Jason Montague New Member
    Lifetime Supporter

    Jan 5, 2010
    6,134
    1,588
    0
    Physician Assitant (retired)
    Sherman,Tx
    Ratings:
    +1,588 / 0 / -0
    :cornut: Love our Dave.O the closet obsessive compulsive R53 mechanic(or his favorite toy. It may not be broke but to him it's just too much fun to fix it anyway, it keeps him off of the streets and gives us plenty of fun stuff to read about).:Thumbsup:

    Jason
     
  12. Nathan

    Nathan Founder

    Mar 30, 2009
    25,144
    10,052
    113
    Writer
    Short North
    Ratings:
    +10,069 / 0 / -0
    I had one, now I don't.

    With the M7 one, when you start tossing vacuum leak type codes, check the "sight glass", mine melted away. It's no more than aquarium airline tubing.
     
  13. ZippyNH

    ZippyNH Well-Known Member

    Jan 25, 2010
    1,404
    688
    113
    Pilot
    Southern NH
    Ratings:
    +688 / 0 / -0
    If OIL is seeping/LEAKING out around the boots or joint....air can get out too!! Hate yo be blunt, but if you see leakage, the boots/gaskets are NOT WORKING RIGHT. Period. Same for ANY OTHER CONNECTION.....look at the inlet tube...might have a crack in it or the connector....think way might sell a few bit like that...
    If it is the boots....Get new boots!! They shrink and harden as the cage(OEM), and the silicone ones are just for looks IMO...more trouble prone and harder to use.
     
  14. Jason Montague

    Jason Montague New Member
    Lifetime Supporter

    Jan 5, 2010
    6,134
    1,588
    0
    Physician Assitant (retired)
    Sherman,Tx
    Ratings:
    +1,588 / 0 / -0
    :cornut: No help here as I'm an R56 type with a catch can and no problems with it. So I'll bump you to keep you on top and wait for the R53 crowd to show up.:Thumbsup:

    Jason
     
  15. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Helix & RMW Powered
    Lifetime Supporter

    May 4, 2009
    25,021
    13,497
    113
    Burbs of Philly, PA
    Ratings:
    +14,644 / 10 / -4
    My advice to you is remove the catch can from your R53 because you don't need it at all.
    It is going to cause more problems than it's worth.
     
  16. Jason Montague

    Jason Montague New Member
    Lifetime Supporter

    Jan 5, 2010
    6,134
    1,588
    0
    Physician Assitant (retired)
    Sherman,Tx
    Ratings:
    +1,588 / 0 / -0
    :cornut: R53s have indirect fuel injection such that the fuel does coat and clean the intake valves.:Thumbsup:

    Jason
     
  17. smokintires

    smokintires New Member

    Feb 11, 2014
    71
    46
    0
    Ratings:
    +46 / 0 / -0
    Yeah that's what I've been writing it off as, but just thought I'd ask you guys who know a bit more than me. But at 17 going to highschool and working 30 hours a week, those long drives are few and far between now haha.

    And one more thing if anyone has time, I changed my oil a few days ago. I should have done a long time ago, but hadn't go around to it. I was rather appalled at what was sittin in my engine. Pulled the dipstick,couldn't even see the level indicator. Drained it and it was black as black gets, it felt thicker. Basically it was almost entirely oxidized sludge crap. Could this have had any effect on the moisture not getting burned away? And I'm going to change it again soon because I want to clean it out and make sure all the crap is out. Does anyone have any opinions on what flushing liquid I could use, or if I should even bother flushing it?
     
  18. Jason Montague

    Jason Montague New Member
    Lifetime Supporter

    Jan 5, 2010
    6,134
    1,588
    0
    Physician Assitant (retired)
    Sherman,Tx
    Ratings:
    +1,588 / 0 / -0
    :cornut: Bump Bump! Calling all R53 Gurus(unfortunately I'm an R56 Type).:Thumbsup:

    Jason
     
  19. Crashton

    Crashton Club Coordinator

    Jun 4, 2009
    19,445
    10,057
    113
    Retired old fart
    Hooterville Ohio USA
    Ratings:
    +11,698 / 2 / -0
    Never had a catch can. I read on the interwebs they were bad JuJu.:wink: Sorry I can't remember why. Someone who knows about them or thinks they do will be along shortly. :Thumbsup:

    :beer
     
  20. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Helix & RMW Powered
    Lifetime Supporter

    May 4, 2009
    25,021
    13,497
    113
    Burbs of Philly, PA
    Ratings:
    +14,644 / 10 / -4
    Well the 2 companies you found really don't make many things that really have any benefits at all.

    The reason I would not add an oil catch can to an R53 is you can mess up the vacuum. Also you don't need one with an R53 at all so it's just a waste of money with no real gains and the possibility really effing things up.

    I am not really sure what valve you are specifically talking about but I have not changed any of those things. My car runs good and strong and puts down some great numbers. I also run my car very hard and it performs very well when in push the GO peddle. :Thumbsup: