Suspension Brakes 1st Gen Chassis bracing

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  1. Sleek Motoring

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    I am looking to add a chassis brace to my R53.

    Ive looked at:

    M7 Under Strut System (haven't read anything good about it)
    M7 Under Strut System (M7-USS) | M7Speed.com

    Madness Lower Stress Brace
    Madness Lower Stress Brace for the MINI Cooper S

    TSW X-Brace
    TSW XBrace - Way Motor Works

    Cusco Power Brace
    02-06 Mini Cooper S Cusco Power Braces: JSC Speed

    GT Spec Under Chassis Cross Brace
    GT Spec Under Chassis Cross Brace MINI Cooper Clubman GTS-SUS-1337

    K-Brace II
    Auto X Cooper


    I am leaning towards the TSW brace. I haven't heard much of anything about the K-Brace II. Ive talked with the builder Donald and he was willing to sell his kit as a package deal with the rear strut brace for 249.99 shipped. Great deal and I am seriously considering it. My only reservation is that it is bolted together and not welded solid.

    Looking for any input! Thanks Everyone!
     
  2. minimark

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    Cusco.
     
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    Can you elaborate on why that is your choice over the others?
     
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    Cusco. You can do it right, or you can do it cheap.
     
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    TSW.......real world testing.

    Cusco doesn't seem to really tie the front end together properly.
     
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    Cusco because if you look at it you will see it ties the mid section of the car together where you really need to stiffen the car up. The others only reinforce the front clip (sub frame) which is already stiff.

    You need to tie in the Mid section in like real sub frame connectors do to stop the car from twisting at it weakest points. The front and rear sub frames are strong but you need to tie them together or make them just as rigid as the front and rear.

    This is common with all uni-body cars.
     
  7. Crashton

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    A well built roll cage is the answer to stiffness. :yesnod:
     
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    Your just wrong.

    Tested them, the Cusco really works, ask Ian Stewart if you don't believe me, he was running one on his NASA national championship winning Mini. The only system that ties the front and rear together.
     
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    Well yeah but then again it's a little big and is not easily removable for some.:ihih:
     
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    With the Cusco you can dial in more turn in the car and still get more forward bite off the corner. 2 cents
     
  11. TheModFather

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    If I where doing things over I would go with the Cusco. I have the X brace under the Rat, and it does stiffen up the front, but as Mark stated it doesn't tie the front to rear. Ideally if you have the Cusco braces, a good fabricator can add cross sections in the center and even tie the bracing into the floor plates of a cage for ultimate chassis stiffness. ;)
     
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    I'm not sure the Cusco was available a few years ago when I opted for my Madness brace. I'd defiantly entertain it if I were to do it over.
     
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    It's been around awhile, but not always easy to get one.
     
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    Cusco is certainly the most expensive option, but does look to be the most effective! Gotta pay to play and I am not one to cut corners on a cost only basis! :mtrn:

    Anyone know of a good vendor to get the Cusco from? (also the best price?)

    Ok, SO if I add the two Cusco braces do you think front and rear upper strut braces are needed/effective anymore? I was leaning on not having a front all together in the first place regardless of underbracing.

    I have coil-overs with camber plates and front/rear sway bars.
     
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    Neither of the upper braces are needed! If you look at the design of the body shell, all the suspension mounting points are about as rigid of a spot as they can get, and these cars are built strong. Pretty much the only other bracing that will have any effect is a cage!
     
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    Thanks Rick! Pretty much confirmed my research and own findings! I hate the idea of either of them. Have to remove the front to do anything under the hood and the rear is utterly in the way of anything functional!
     
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    Anyone know of a good vendor to get the Cusco from?
     
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    Got mine through Jan at RMW back in the day.
     
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    I'm not even sure on this one anymore! Maybe sending an email to Cusco USA would work.
     
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