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  1. TheModFather

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    If I where doing things over I would go with the Cusco. I have the X brace under the Rat, and it does stiffen up the front, but as Mark stated it doesn't tie the front to rear. Ideally if you have the Cusco braces, a good fabricator can add cross sections in the center and even tie the bracing into the floor plates of a cage for ultimate chassis stiffness. ;)
     
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    Cusco is certainly the most expensive option, but does look to be the most effective! Gotta pay to play and I am not one to cut corners on a cost only basis! :mtrn:

    Anyone know of a good vendor to get the Cusco from? (also the best price?)

    Ok, SO if I add the two Cusco braces do you think front and rear upper strut braces are needed/effective anymore? I was leaning on not having a front all together in the first place regardless of underbracing.

    I have coil-overs with camber plates and front/rear sway bars.
     
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    Thanks Rick! Pretty much confirmed my research and own findings! I hate the idea of either of them. Have to remove the front to do anything under the hood and the rear is utterly in the way of anything functional!
     
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    The car is going to be a weekend fun car that I will drive to work when it is nice out. May see some track time as well. Just want a really fun car to drive on the street without eating my tires off and still able to rip my face off around corners!



    I have camber plates, coil-overs, front and rear sway bars, Powerflex bushings, all 3 Vibratechnics mounts, adjustable control arms, and soon the Cusco bracing!I have the 8 piston Brembo brakes and as soon as I make up my mind on which, some very sticky tires!
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    #29 cct1, Dec 19, 2014
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    For everyday driving, no. The MINI is plenty stiff to begin with, as you mentioned.The braces won't make a difference. People will tell you they do, but unless you're really pushing it, and by that I mean driving harder than you should in public, it's not going to make a difference.

    On the track, different story.
     
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    #32 cct1, Dec 21, 2014
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    Mine did. From what I understand that's more a function of the design of the windshield--rake and flatness--than from flexing of the chassis.

    Let's face it, the MINI windshield is basically a sail, and gets a ton of stress from small rocks and at high speed even air. Any small hits or imperfections get magnified quickly.
     
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    #33 cct1, Dec 21, 2014
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    Desperately needs these mods? Um, no. The MINI out of the box is substantially stiffer than the average car. I'm guessing you had another issue with the car.

    Most complaints with the first generation MINI centered around the car being too tight, both chassis and suspension.
     
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    In my old MG when hitting a really bumpy patch all the parts no longer touched each other & were just there floating along in the same direction of travel. It was pretty funny to watch when it happened. That car had the rigidity of a piece of tissue paper. :D
     
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    I have some sacred chick bones in the glove box to ward off any M7 bad juju.... :)
     
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    My R53 stopped creaking in corners after the roll cage was installed. But it has spring rates over double the stock rates and 50 treadwear tires.

    Most of the rough ride people complain about is from lowering the cars without sufficiently increasing the spring rates, and therefore hitting the bump stops. Or putting on big wheels and low profile tires.

    I seriously doubt bracing is worth the added weight on most street cars.
     
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    Drool.....
     
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    That's some nice fab work there. :Thumbsup:
     
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    Having the brace welded will pay dividends for you. Think about doing that & I bet you a donut you'll feel an improvement. I agree all things we do come down to personal choice. I'm going to try a belt & suspenders & see if it helps me in the twisty bits. :cool:
     
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    +1. And it would be VERY cheap to have that done if you know someone trustworth.
     
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    This is the one you want. It stiffens EVERYTHING, some guys even don't have to use Viagra after installation. Rumor has it adding the fire extinguisher is good for another 15 WHP and 10 cool points.
     

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    Wow what a piece of carp that is. You know what they say about fools & there money, that applies here. :eek:ut: How can someone sell a piece like that with a straight face?
     
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    No it really is an M7 part. :lol:
     
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    I remember arguing with the sheeple on NAM about them too.

    Everybody knows I have bought my fair share of junk parts (Bytetronik, Sprintex, M-garbage body pieces, and on and on...) but out of all the carp that has been bought and removed, you'll notice one thing that I have never done... Rear chassis braces only add weight to the car, and lightness to your wallet unless it involves a cage.