Engine Drivetrain 1st Gen Cooper S Clutch/Flywheel Reco

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  1. UKXPAT

    UKXPAT New Member

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    #1 UKXPAT, Oct 10, 2010
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    I have been recommended the Clutchmaster FX-400 6 puck clutch and lighweight aluminum flywheel combo for my car, and I was looking to get some feedback/recommendations from the group out there. I have 250 whp and I am still running the OEM clutch, (about 4,500 miles since mods). I know that it will need replacing before to long, but I'm not going to swap until necessary. My usage is mainly aggressive daily street driving with a VERY occasional track day.
     
  2. Way Motor Works

    Way Motor Works New Member

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    Are you going to be using this on the street?
     
  3. Jan

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    DO NOT USE THE STAGE 1, 2 or 3 with your combo.........IT WILL NOT LAST............

    use the 6puck
     
  4. yellowbritishrocket

    yellowbritishrocket Well-Known Member

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    ya know they have a steel lightweight flywheel option
     
  5. UKXPAT

    UKXPAT New Member

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    Daily driver. Rarely get's to the track.
     
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    UKXPAT New Member

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    I thought they did, but didn't see it on their website.
     
  7. Jan

    Jan Well-Known Member
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    you have to ask for it:devil:
     
  8. mini_racer

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    I need some clarification please.............
    Doesn't the Stage 1 roughly equate to OEM, with 2 and 3 being more aggressive? So, I read more aggressive as meaning stronger, more robust, longer lasting, etc.
    Are you saying that the Stage 1,2,3 will not last as long as OEM??
     
  9. Jan

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    I have not seen failures with the 6 puck. I can't say the same about the others
     
  10. Way Motor Works

    Way Motor Works New Member

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    You are correct. But the OEM ones are work pretty good, most OEM failures are the flywheel or throwout bearing.

    Keep it simple and get an OS Giken they rock.
     
  11. Eric@Helix

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    The CM stage 4 holds up to big power, but prepare yourself for substantially more pedal effort: those springs are stiff.
     
  12. Jan

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    somethings wrong then because the CM has easier pedal effort than stock due to the fulcrum design they have

    the OS is definitely stiffer than stock, feels more like a racing clutch should

    having driven both on my car , the OS twin disc is brutal for everyday driving and I rarely complain about clutches. OS is going to replace my pressure plate next time we have it apart. Since I was the guinea pig for them this was to be expected
     
  13. UKXPAT

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    Do you recommend Steel over Aluminum on the flywheel then?
     
  14. Jan

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    steel is "quieter" but the aluminum is better for the track
     
  15. Chase

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    I have liked my CM stage 4 for 2 years now. Feels great and the pads on the puck are still like brand new. pedal feel is easier than stock, but quick engagement
     
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    1. So, how do you know the pads are still like brand new? What did you have it down for?

    2. What kind of duty does your car experience.
    - 10K only street miles/yr ?
    - minimal street and 8-10 track events per year?
    - etc.

    3. Also, please elaborate on 'quick engagement. Quick like a light switch, on and off? Is there any transition at all? Can you start from dead stop going uphill without spinning the tires? etc.

    Sorry for the silly questions, it is just very difficult to describe how something feels. A spin around the block in a car with this clutch would be optimal.
     
  17. Chase

    Chase New Member

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    my car was getting 30k hard street miles a year haha. most people that have been around my car know it has seen coast to coast driving almost every year. I havent made it out to the track sadly, but my canyon runs prove to me that the clutch works well in hard driving environments.

    I took the clutch out because i had to pull the motor. Its being rebuilt (the car was still working fine, just not as much power as i wanted)

    the engagement is very quick, but very drivable. you wont have to worry about spinning the tires up hill or anything for that matter, well unless you rev the engine and pop the clutch. You just break in the clutch like normal and you will be fine. Drive it normal. I have had many people drive my car and they had no troubles with the clutch even with there first time.


    dont worry about silly questions, i understand your curiousness. You just wanna make sure you are getting what you want etc...
     
  18. Nathan

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    Terry, you are welcome to drive mine with an OS Giken next time you meander north.
     
  19. k-huevo

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    A heads up for a new OS Giken clutch option Werkin Mini will be offering after SEMA. It's a more street user friendly version; still capable of handling high power output demands, but more forgiving in its engagement characteristics.
     
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    Any chance they'll be doing something about the price! From what I have seen so far, the Gilken set up is at least twice the price! Is it really that much better??
     

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