Hi temp? I got the same stuff yesterday.
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Woah, you're quick. :lol:
My gray stuff says it can be used for spark plugs, so maybe it's OK. :confused5: -
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I would be real careful and use the correct stuff. I'm a little fuzzy on this, but I seem to remember the wrong coating will mess up your O2 sensor or maybe the catalytic converter?
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My MINI Guru friend says the trick is just to apply a very small amount above the 2nd thread of the plug -- ie -- no anti seize in the combustion chamber.
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Minidave Well-Known MemberLifetime Supporter
Your guru is right.......
But I've never had a plug sieze in the head in the 45 years I've been working on engines. Clean threads and proper torque is all I've ever needed...... -
Thanks for the info/tips, guys.
(I did some searching on the web and there doesn't seem to be anything definitive on why copper-based anti-seize might need to be used. :confused5 -
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the anti-seize works to prevent galling between the dissimilar metals of the aluminum head and the steel spark plug threads. The gray stuff is fine to use. Just a apply a very thin coat to the spark plug threads and stay away from the last couple threads. No chunks, no brush hairs, either.
You can avoid the issue of galling by changing your spark plugs every 50k or so. Also, removal technique is important: once you break the plug loose with the first turn, keep turning with a smooth steady motion and don't stop. This is important if you haven't changed them say, for 100 or 120k miles. And this is also a relatively new phenomenon with the widespread use of aluminum heads to save weight. -
Anti seize is a good idea with any thread especially when working with aluminum. The exception in required dry area's or no chemical lubricants of operational parts. Not sure why there is a concern for getting a little in the combustion chamber (lol) it will burn. (see combustion temps.) But if you get it on the grounding electrode you might cause the spark plug to foul or not fire? As for copper not sure why you would have any deliberate use for it around anything automotive? Can't really hurt anything it is just not used though! If you look into it the use it is rated more for stainless steel and were regulation apply for chemical uses such as in hospitals or Nuclear power plants. LOL?
As for anti seize and the 02 sensors I believe if you look into that it is with sealants like silicone where you should make certain they are all sensor safe. lol Most 02 sensors comes with anti seize already applied to the threads and a protective cap to preserve the aniti seize for installation! -
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My plugs came with their own anti-seize. Got them from Waylan.
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Just remembered, the MINI tech at the dealer up in Winnipeg used copper based anti-seize on the back side of wheels when re-mounting them. I just use regular silver coloured stuff.
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The grey stuff
is Moly di-sulfide, I think. It's really good stuff. One jar should last a lifetime!
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Here is what the cooper anti seize container says. So it is a good thing on plugs, sensors brakes.........
A premium quality copper anti-seize and thread lubricant that may be used to prevent seizing, corrosion and galling where high temperature conditions exist.
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OK, this is the stuff I used:
"Permatex® Anti-Seize Lubricant
A highly refined blend of aluminum, copper and graphite lubricants. Use during assembly to prevent galling, corrosion and seizing and to assure easier disassembly. Temperature range: -60°F to 1600°F (-51°Cto 871°C)."
I used a tiny bit. The plugs went in much smoother than when they came out. I guess things are OK. -
Next thread about plugs the proper way to power gap and choose the correct heat range....Titiled "Minis Not all engines are the same":lol: