Engine Drivetrain 1st Gen Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: Crower cams not available

If you're going to build your S I suggest that you talk with Jan at RMW. I'm not trying to start a tuner war here ( especially with Nathan down right now) but he has a lot of satisfied customers here on MA.

 

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are too many to count aftermarket parts in the MINI market that are counterproductive and cause power loss, it's sad really. Cold air intakes, intercoolers, cams, you name it. NS1 was popular for one reason and one reason only: it was cheap. People put them in their cars with no dyno data, and proclaimed them good. They spent the dough, and once you've bought something the natural inclination is to defend and justify it; and the creator said they were good and was very vocal (not so much anymore), so a cult was born. Find some good dyno data on an NS1 on an MCS. There is dyno data on them, but it's not good, and many people who know this won't tell you that because they sell the cams.

Anyway, a tune is going to do more for you than a cam, it's a much cheaper, safer, and better, bang for the buck. Pulley first, then larger injectors, cam, header/exhaust, is a great place to start. BVH gets pricey, but it's a huge difference maker. The nice thing about RMW is they have a cam that will fit your needs, rather than a "one size fits all cam", which doesn't exist anyway. Call Jan, throw out what you've done to your car here, don't make the same mistakes I and many others have made by buying without any data to back it up. You're lucky; you have all our accumulated good and bad experiences to bank on, and everyone here gets a kick out of helping people out. I've screwed up too many times to count, just don't want to see someone on here make the mistakes I've made.

 

Without trying to start another pissing match, I'll just throw out there that the NS1 isn't the best application for an MCS. You want to talk base Cooper, then MAYBE. But not for an MCS. You want torque down lower? Go with a 17% pulley, if you're not going to rev high. Much less of a headache. There are many ways to get what you want. An NS1 is at best a lateral move, at worst a step back. It's your choice, but if you can get out of that cam I would. Just my 2 cents.

You are hamstringing yourself with that cam if you're planning on modding in the future, larger injectors, etc.

I'd strongly recommend you call Jan. A cam, while not a huge undertaking, isn't exactly a small one either. You need a plan, that you can do one step at a time, not a piecemeal part installation.

 

Let's turn done the vitriol please.

 

We can stop buy and help you take off those 90's tribal tramp stamp graphics from your fenders. :ihih::lol:

 

If you go with 440's or 550's you will need a custom tune (Jan) and you should do the CAM at the same time to tie everything together so you best performance out of your investment.

 

Why don't you feller's take the pissing match to PM? The thread can then continue to get useful info for the OP & not make Nathan's BP spike.

 

Smart move. There are MUCH better options than an NS1, which simply does not belong on an S anyway; I'm mildly surprised Way would have sold one to you if he had them in stock. Don't know much about FES, or who recommended the NS1 to you, but it's.....not.....a....horsepower.....maker...... Show me where you're getting a few extra HP on an S with an NS1, and I'll show you a fudged dyno plot...Total waste of money, consider yourself lucky. There are anecdotal reports of it helping out the base Cooper, but for the S, forget it. You're better off with stock.

Just dropping a cam in isn't really the way to do it anyway; there's more to it than that--throw out your goals, and what you've done to your car already, and there's a bunch of people that can get you moving in the direction you want.

Crower has a good reputation, so people automatically assume it's good. But that cam was not specced by Crower, just reground by them. I have a hard time believing the reason they're in short supply is due to high demand, but that's just me. I'd wager there's virtually no demand, and Crower isn't wasting their time on them.

 

Just call Jan at RMW and buy the right CAM once and be done.

Do not buy a Nitro Boom Stick, that thing is a just a POS.

 

:lol::lol: your such a moron.......I bought ONE new SC to have as a spare for me, I will own my car forever, the 2nd one is for Steve at CMS......your spy doesn't know shite! And get your prices right, we didn't spend anything near $3 k......Lynn is not into Minis anymore, I have a local mechanic, Steve at Custom Mini Shop.....I don't post here anymore because of morons like you......any time you wanna come out for a bike ride, let's roll, bet this 53 year old can kick your 18 year old azz :lol:.......see.....this is why I don't come here anymore :frown2: So you building a "Rat Mini"? What to cheap to fix it right :lol:

 

You spoke to me yesterday as i was just in Springfield

 

And IMO DO NOT BUY USED ONES ON NAM....I'd bet $$ most are the stock ones folks put in the cam box they bought...and sold....to the untrained eye they look so similar...only buy from a real seller.

 

Lol! So over this stuff but......NS1 working great for me for over, what, 5 years now? Dang glad I'm into biking and spend my extra money elsewhere now. We'll can't say that actually, just ordered 2 new Superchargers from cooperke s,one just to have a extra one ready on the shelf.......carry on