2nd Gen R56 Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: Death Rattle

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  1. MCS02

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    #16 MCS02, Feb 19, 2015
    No argument here. I think it was a bad design. A long time ago we had a discussion about the oil chaing interval being to long on a tourbo car. I believe that MINI originally called for 15000 miles between oil changes, one of you gen 2 guys correct me if I am wrong.
    Mini decreased the interval after they had to replace some engines. Not because of timing chains but because of sludge build up.
    I'm not a Gen 2 guy, but the guys that have them like them. They are fun cars and mostly trouble free. I am sorry this has happened to your car and maybe they should have used the upgraded parts when they repaired your car. Then you would not be having this trouble.

    I do not know what part of the country you live in but some of the dealers are very good.

    Good luck and why are you not sleeping at 4am:biggrin5:
     
  2. I am A Fool

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    #17 I am A Fool, Feb 19, 2015
    At 4 a.m. I am thinking about either fixing my mini or tossing it.

    The Dealer didn't put the heat plate over the turbo oil lines either, so they are worn.

    The water housing needs changing. The endlinks need to be replaced, and I might as well do all four discs.

    All easy projects, except for the water housing. i.e. Jarvis artificial heart.

    I am told that my local dealer is the worst in the country, because I live in a very affluent community. People don't care, they just throw money and say fix it. Which leaves no time for those who have warranty issues.
     
  3. Metalman

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    #18 Metalman, Feb 19, 2015
    What makes you think the three people that responded didn't know what they were talking about?

    I suggest to you that the 2nd gen engine was use over several model years...

    The manufacturer reserves the right to make changes / improvements to the engine as they are built on the assembly line. It's quite possible that the 3 voters don't have or consider their particular model year exhibiting this issue. So they voted accordingly. They may simply have a later year 2nd gen MINI that benefited from the changes....

    If you review the P/N history for the chain tensioner you will find at least 3 versions were made for the tensioner. At this point do you know what P/N is being used in your engine?
     
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    #23 fsrbullet, Feb 23, 2015
    Wow! 4,000,000,000,005 voters! :D
     
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    #25 Metalman, Feb 23, 2015
    Awwww Man.....

    Spammers drive MINI's.....:mad:
     
  6. ZippyNH

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    #26 ZippyNH, Feb 23, 2015
    I guess I missed my chance to vote...:rolleyes:
    Wonder if the op blew off enough steam to relax a bit...hate it when folks are just trying to gather data for a lawsuit....
    Lawsuits destroyed the general aviation indrustry in the us...took an act of congress to limit liability...folks were sueing for TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars on a 50+ year old airplane that cost a couple thousand dollars....
    Sure...it is implied that a product is suitable...
    But after the warrenty runs out, and the issues are well understood, the onus is on the owner...
    Look at it this way...the product has the risk of the cam tensioner failure worked into the used car price...that's WHY a 2007 is worth LESS than a 2006 with the old motor, even though it an older, less advanced car....
    And THAT is why MINI (IMO) still covers the issue on a case by case basis... The original owners usually get coverage, but the folks who bought the cars used for a "good deal" don't....
     
  7. Nigel

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    #27 Nigel, Sep 25, 2015
    Sorry to revive this thread, but i've been reading up on the death rattle, since I'm trying to diagnose a rattle I'm hearing on my newly purchased '08 MCS Conv Sidewalk. Usually I hear it after driving when I'm on idle right before shutting down the car. It also seems to be louder on the driver side than the passenger side where I believe the tensioner and timing chain is.

    Also, being an 08 'vert, does that mean I have the same engine as an 05-06 R53 even though it's referred to as R52?

    For those that experience the death rattle, any specific mileage that these symptoms seem to appear?

    Appreciate any help, I bought the tensioner from eBay with the part number 11 31 7 510 801. Is this the updated part # from the original OEM?

    PS - The OP needs to take some chill pills. :cornut:
     
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