I was told "it's a pain in the a**"
Oh well I guess lol
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TheModFather Well-Known Member
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Sorry to be the bearer of the bad news, I really would like to see everybody get a good tune, and not go to a canned company. -
Jason Montague New MemberLifetime Supporter
Jason -
Many of us have had R53's. Mine heavily modded and was indeed tuned by Jan but at some point the R53's will fade off into the sunset and someone will need to be able to adapt to the changes in the later models. I know it's a PITA as I have had my N18 tuned but c'mon.
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TheModFather Well-Known Member
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Quite a few companies are upping the security of their ECU's... Chrysler has even made the 2011+ Jeeps... The Wrangler's... Not even the SRT models (which undoubtedly are locked as well) a real pain in the ass to tune. And is there really a High horsepower performance market for a V6 off road vehicle?
They do it to keep people from being able to alter their engineers work, to cut down on warranty claims, and even to cut down on street racing. Think about it... It works. Kids aren't going to buy a decently quick car to race around town in, if they cant really make it any faster. -
It's kinda just sad from my standpoint, the best in the business won't tune an N18. Shoot I'd even pay another $200 for his services on top of that.
I'm just gonna send my ECU in to PAW and be done with it. I'm over it at this point of waiting and trying other tuners to dyno tune my car. $860 ECU tune, colder plugs, and shipped, not a bad price. I will still have another $100 to dyno the car to see what type of power I can put down(not looking for anything crazy).
As for the R53 comment, I won't go buy another car just to put more mods, when the same could be done with these N18s. Funny how NM, RennTech, and PAW can tune them whether its dyno tuned or sending my ECU in. But hey what do I know lol.
I still hope others decide to tune their cars by RMW at DT in September, it's gonna be exciting for those trying to get it done.
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Any questions I can answer I will do my best, otherwise people who are interested have to call DT to fill slots up! -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Good luck with your N18 and don't forget to ask Wayne from G4 and the little fella that does the tunes at PAW about the car they tuned at the Dragon this year.
The car did not make it back home from the Dragon running........ be careful who you send your ECU too.
Just a word of caution. -
I'm really curious what happened exactly to that persons car. -
Seriously- if he doesn't feel good about doing it... than really, DON'T!
If anything, this should show you how responsible Jan is for not accepting your money and trying to protect your car.
BTW- WTF is PAW? :confused5:
If they are cool with doing this for you, I'd be very leary. -
Renntech does Mercedes, BMWs, and MINIs and a few others from talking to Lenny(main guy in charge). Precision Auto Werks(PAW) is friends with RennTech but have slightly different tunes. Both are located in FL. Most of the information is located on NAM in a thread. I think some of you don't know about them because no one on this forum talks about them or knows about them. A lot of people have the RennTech tune and no issues with it(N18). Also a few have the PAW tune. I prefer the RennTech tune over the PAW, but we'll see. And thanks for the good luck, I think I will be fine. Check out dyno charts or RennTechs dyno charts for the N18.
I will say however I won't go with ETG(ECU tuning group), the guy is a scammer and came from Europe. He gives out crap tunes and we warned one guy on NAM about it but he learned the hard way when his engine blew up at like 17k miles.
I don't want people to think I'm bad mouthing Jan, I heard he did a few N18s at the dragon so that's why I'm kinda confused as to why he won't do it. I understand its a risk and all of that, but he keeps telling me to wait for a OBD tuning device...that's where I'm like well, "hello RennTech or PAW". If you guys have any other questions, look at the thread on NAM. It's under,official N18 tuning thread. -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Good luck with your N18.
I NEVER go on NAM it's full of B.S. and idiots that buy ALTA parts and I only trust one guy in Florida and his name is Ian not Mickey.:lol: -
WildThang New Member
I will ring in to discuss/schedule this for one of my R53s.
(after my vacation)
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