1st Gen R50 Cooper Most liked posts in thread: Dilemma regarding oil cap cage...

OK.
Bye bye.
I suggest you take a reading comprehension course sometime. It would probably serve you well in life.
And maybe some counseling on how to take good advice when you're given it.
And to respect those with the experience and goodwill to provide it.
Because there was NOTHING to gain from any of this, for any of us here, except to try to help you. All you did was refuse to listen, argue with us, refuse to accept facts, read your own wishful thinking into everything we provided, and then insult me when I tried to help once again with more FACTS you seem to be fond of.

On behalf of the Motoring Alliance community... get bent.

 

Well that was fun.

To sum up what we've learned here.

Experience doesn't matter. The entire forum idea where the collective learns from experience has now been debunked as a fraud.

With that, there is no more need for this thread to continue.

It's closed.

 

It's a FACT that some folks in those threads reported low oil pressure lights when using the original cap, without the core, with the new filters.

It's also a FACT that some folks in those threads reported low oil pressure lights when using the new cap, with the old housing, with the new filters.

It's also a FACT that more than one actual professional mini mechanic in those threads (who are known to me, and who's experience I trust) said that you have to change the housing, to use the new cap.

I also know from looking at the parts, that the new cap is constructed quite differently from the old cap, and has an allow "cylinder" that sticks into the paper end of the filter to create a good seal. The old cap doesn't have that. So I'm confident the new-style filters will not seal properly inside the housings with the old-style cap, if the core is not used.

Perhaps some folks got lucky and got it sealed "good enough" to seem to work. Or perhaps the filter wasn't seated on the cap cylinder sufficiently, and was still able to push the valves in the housing and trick it into thinking it was working. But when the mechanics in those threads say "doesn't work", I believe them.

I do have the benefit of 10 years on these forums, to know who to listen to, and who to ignore. I understand you don't have that.

 

From what I've read, your only choice is to replace the old style filter assembly with the newer style.

 

Do what Crashton suggested and make the call to Steven, he will set you straight and most likely give you a nice deal on some OEM filters.... Stick with OEM or Mann filters and don't use any of the other aftermarket filters... The cage keeps the pleated oil filter from collapsing while under oil pressure and shutting off the vital oil flow to the engine...

 

Call Steven at eMINIparts.com. He will know. :yesnod:

603-637-2900

 

For what it's worth I definitely would try the Mann filter with the plastic internal structure. Using plastic that is to be reused in the environment of hot engine oil seems foolish to me. I wonder about all of the plastics used in new cars now as it will be quite failure prone as time goes by.

 

Goodbye

 

Lee this plastic deal is what the problem is.

 

Found this on the "other place".... I didn't want to go there, so I took a bullet for you...

Scroll down to... see Nathan's post below....

There, fixed it...

 

Ah hell... Time to ste..eh borrow that for posterity. It's not like it wasn't stol..eh borrowed there. The production value is too darn good for the person that posted it.

Oh one right click to reveal source found the original.

MINI Cooper Oil Filter Confusion / Problem / Hints 2002-2004

 

Tl;dr version: you must replace the entire housing, not just the cap.

 

Read the threads. You CAN NOT use the original cap WITHOUT the cage, with EITHER new style or old style filters.

You CAN NOT use a new style cap with an old style housing, with either style filter.

You CAN use old style cap, intact with the cage with either old or new style filter.

 

I was under the impression that the current oem/Mann oil filters had internal caging and did not require the old style plastic cage. Hopefully others with more knowledge than I will answer soon.

 

I hate to give you that answer for a R50 because I'm only familiar with the R56... Wouldn't want to give you bad info....

One would assume that MINI surmised that a constant reusable plastic cage wouldn't last long. The Realoem doesn't list a separate plastic cage, so maybe they made a filter improvement and included it in the new filter design...

Someone should come along with the answer that knows a R50 better than me...