Blipping the throttle accomplishes the same thing. When I blip the throttle you would never know I had downshifted. Now if you were talking about double-clutching.......it would be a more accurate statement
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Wow, I totally forgot about double clutching. Growing old isn't for wimps! :smile5:
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one of the things that I'm amused by are the manual drivers, thinking they're so cool
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Eric@Helix New MemberMotoring Alliance Founding Sponsor
Do you even shift, bro?
I'm not sure I understand the point of any of these arguments. First, the flappy-paddle vs. butter-churn shifting debate is well-worn. It's fundamentally based upon the fact that with modern cars, the visceral experience (smell, vibration, noise, twitchy handling) is gone. The manual shifter debate is a proxy for driver involvement. Unfortunately, even with manual transmissions, cars are so antiseptic that the manual doesn't save them. I special ordered a F30 BMW with manual. They sent me an automatic. I rejected it and told them to find me a manual. There were two in the country. I got one of them. It's boring, lifeless, and without soul. I've done a couple of things to move the needle a little but it's still boring, manual or not.
As for the blip-vs-rev-match debate: with all due respect: shut up!:biggrin5: It doesn't matter whether you blip or match, you're not Senna, and you're not racing for 10ths of a second where your preferred technique will win you millions of dollars and the admiration of the most beautiful Southern European Nubilesse in existence. If you wanna blip, blip. If you wanna rev-match, rev-match. Either way, not even your wife cares. Ask me how I know... -
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Do I manual? Well, in 40+ years of car ownership, I've never owned an automatic transmission car - and I plan to keep it that way, forever. (hold on a minute.... I need to chase some damn pesky kids off my lawn! ....)
But someday I might own an automatic if the aging process dictates I can't use my left leg anymore, or you know, I lose an arm or two. In the meantime, I tolerate an automatic for my wife's car, but they are just not for me.
It's important to remember that automotive tastes in the US (and Canada) are not the global norm - especially automatic cars. Most of the world drives manual cars and automatic-equipped cars are really the small minority. However, it can be argued that as the US goes regarding leisure and luxury accommodations, the rest of the world slowly, but eventually catches up to us (not being snobby, just realistic). So I have not doubt that manual transmissions will slowly be overtaken by automatics, but I think it will actually be transmission-less electric cars that kill the manual gearbox.
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Minidave Well-Known MemberLifetime Supporter
It's not about leisure and luxury today, it's about fuel mileage - and currently I'll bet someone a coke that ALL auto equipped cars in the US are rated higher with an auto trans than a manual - that's why mfr's are deleting manuals - CAFE and gummint regs rule the auto world today, not enthusiasts and certainly not "the market".
New tech will replace old tech, it's the way of the world. I'm not arguing for or against a manual, it's personal choice to me - I can and do drive both. I appreciate both. There are times (not many) when I prefer a stick, but most of the time the auto is exactly right for driving conditions I'm in and the trip I'm taking. For example, if you drive every day in rush hour stop and go, slow and go traffic - a manual gets old in a hurry......letting the trans shift for itself is wonderful. Likewise, on a long highway run you put it top gear and leave it there for hours at a time.....so what possible difference does it make to have a clutch pedal?
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If I was forced to drive in stop and go traffic, I might consider an automatic. But before I did that, I try to find every way I could to avoid stop and go traffic! A very cool solution for that problem is on its way from Ford (and it’s amazing nobody came up with this before now). It’s an autopilot feature allows the car to automatically accelerate and brake in stop and go, bumper to bumper traffic, taking away the mindless and soul-crushing repetitive nature of that situation.
edit: for some reason, I am not able to post a link to any news story about this Ford feature. Why?
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
Please clarify for me.........what is rev-matching and why is it different from blipping?
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