Brakes Wheels 2nd Gen Tires Most liked posts in thread: EBC Reds, EBC Front Rotors, RBF 660 Fluid

...So you're saying that yours takes only a pump or two to get rock solid, but you've felt others that were hard after just one stroke?

How many "pedals" have you pumped? :devil:

 

I've sold and installed a lot of EBC green pads and had great luck with them on street cars, The issues come with people taking Greenstuff to the track, are really hard mountain driving. The Green is more of a DD pad with less dust and I never recommend it for more than that.

For the ATE blue fluid, I HATE THAT STUFF. I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT. We've found that it has bad longterm effects. It does something to the seals in Both BMW's and MINIs that over time the pedal gets soft, even with changing every 6months, we've used it in other cars like vettes and porsches and had good luck with ATE in them. I've found the Motul to work better and have a higher boiling point. The 660 is a little overkill for a street car. 600 is fine.

 

Hmmm. Interesting. Somehow I missed this discussion on Super Blue until now.

I've been running Super Blue and Type 200 for 5+years and over 110k miles and haven't noticed any problems... but my pedal has NEVER been as "rock hard" as some I've felt, even before the super blue. After a pump or two it's rock solid, but it's not "solid" at the end of the first stroke, like some I've seen.

 

Pump. Pump, pump, pump.

 

I went with the reds all around and the slotted only rotors this year, so far I'm liking them alot!

 

They should work well if you pay attention to brake fade. It can sneak up on you.

I'm interested in your feedback on them. I'm running Green Stuffed pads too & like them for the street.

 

Put the same set up on mine 2 months ago and am loving the hell out of them. Just put 1k on in the Rocky, Wasatch and Bear Tooth Mts. with zero fade, noise, smell and almost no brake dust. Just solid braking whenever needed.

 

I am really glad you had those kinda of results with them. I feel confident recommending them to others now, though i still really want to get a set of Bobcats for myself.

IMO The greens are terrible. Yes, they are quite and produce little dust, but when i really needed them....the brakes just werent there. And with an all-season performance tire (BFG G-Force) i got zero ABS click, i find that to be very un-exceptable. When i switched to the r56 brakes i used the stock pad, which has provided MUCH more capable braking in just normal driving conditions.

 

Based on my experience in the high mountains last month, I decided to go with the EBC Sport rotors on the rear as well and just put them on. Might as well have good water shedding ability back there, too. Got a few questions about the Motul RBF 660 fluid. Does it take 2Qts to do a fluid change? I don't track/auto-x, but how often should it be changed? I suspect more often the every 2 years as racing fluid sucks up a lot of water. I'm due for a change fairly soon or would you recommend doing it now? Thanks!

 

2 years for stock brake fluid, 1 year tops for ATE Super Blue (slower water absorbtion than other fluids), 6 months for other racing fluid.

When I flushed out my Super Blue last February, it took 1/2 L for the brakes and another 1/4 L for the clutch. I like the little 1/4 L bottles because you only use one to bleed the brakes. If you're using Super Blue in those 1L bottles, you might as well use the whole thing and do a full flush. Once you open any bottle of brake fluid, it starts absorbing moisture, so make a practice of recycling unused fluid that's sitting around for more than a week.

 

I too have followed the suggestion of not leaving brake fluid in the bottle with the same understanding

Thought occurred to me that the bottle is a sealed container with a twist on lid and our cars are basically the same (in this case a master cylinder resevoir with a twist on cap)

I understand that over time brake fluid absorbs water and thats why we change it out at the intervals mentioned not to mention the degradation that heat causes over time

Why does brake fluid sitting in a opened bottle with a twist on cap absorb water quicker than sitting in our cars?

PS Redbeard - Lookin Good!

 

Improved from what?....

 

Thanks Way! 600 it is.

 

I agree, having gone from reds up front with stock on the back (in the '04) to greens on the back (per a recommendation at the track). Greens suck! There's no brake there to grab and they are way slow to respond. And yes, the S/O uses Gromie for auotX and HPDE primarily. Next time we'll go back to stock or reds all the way around. Thanks for the reviews!