Clogged gas tank breather?
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I top off too, have not had a problem when doing so. Last fill was darn close to 14 gallons in the supposed 13 gallon tank.
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So, I'm finally hopeful for a resolution after suffering with this for months.
The issue was getting much worse. Stalling at idle also began to happen regularly during the first 10 minutes after starting out. It would be usually okay after the engine warmed up. But bizarrely, the worst situation was after filling up. I might have been driving an hour, and then stall several times just trying to pull away from the pump and out of the gas station.
I took it to a respected MINI shop and they identified a major issue with the engine (I'll write about this later). After repairs, the engine runs better than it had in a long time. The idle stalling is almost gone but not completely. However, the stalling after fillup was not affected at all. Without fail, it stalls after filling up and I have trouble for the first few minutes of driving.
I finally had a clue this weekend. The filler cap warning light went on briefly. This could explain the behavior, if the gasket wasn't sealing completely but did seal after enough pressure built up in the tank. I have a replacement cap on order and should receive it by tomorrow. Really, really hoping this simple fix will do it.-
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Hopefully the gas cap does it...
Kinda wonder if the "purge valve"...not sure the technical name...but it helps to draw a vacuum on the tank is bad...maybe letting fuel get sucked into places it should not be going...the MINI part is $$$..but I remember reading that it is actually a generic part used on MANY cars....just happens to be sold by MINI, but not cross referenced by non-MINI parts places as fitting......
If the cap does not do it for ya..let me know...I'll look for the lthread over on NAM.-
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Bingo!
The purge valve was indeed the problem. I had been planning on taking the car back to the shop today (based on my family and work schedule). As luck would have it, the SES light came on the day before, and codes pointed to the purge valve. Everything good since I picked it up today. I had been suffering with this for the past 5 months.-
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I'd think if it was a clogged breather it would happen before the fill up. As the fuel was used it would starve for fuel. Had this happen on another car. If it was that when the cap was opened the pressure would equalize & run fine until it built up pressure again.
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
Do you top off the tank or stop filling as soon as the nozzle first shuts off?
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After the initial shut off, sometimes I squeeze the handle until it clicks again, but I don't make a special effort to top off like pulling the nozzle out partly.
It doesn't whoosh when I take the cap off. Some of my previous cars did that but I haven't noticed it on the MINI. Next time I take the car out, I'll try just opening/closing the cap at the end of the trip and seeing what happens if I restart the car. If it stumbles, it's related to the tank pressure. If it doesn't happen, the problem is caused by something else. -
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Does you MINI have any codes stored?
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
I top mine off when I fill up and get every last drop in I can. I know you are not supposed to but I have never had a problem.
It may have to do with the breather but you could also be getting bad or watered down fuel.
Try adding a bottle of Chevron Techtron for a 20 gallon tank and fill you next take with 93 octane fuel from Shell or Sunoco. Maybe you have varnish built up in the fuel system that needs to be cleaned out. It may take 2 or more tanks of 93 and techtron to clean everything up.
It could also be a MAP or T-MAP sensor going bad but try the fuel treatments first since they are the cheapest and you always need fuel.
One more thing it could be is an O2 sensor since everything is warmed up and you shut off the car. When the ECU resets the O2 is already warmed up and it's trying to adjust everything which could cause what you are feeling. That did happen to me before and after I checked everything I replaced the O2 everything was right again.
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
Yea, you should never top off as it will damage the carbon canister and it can effect performance.
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Never had a problem and have been doing it for 8 years.
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Yes if you keep clicking to get to the next even dollar. Letting it click one more time is not going to harm anything. At least that has been my experience. Your mileage may vary.
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93 is all that goes in my tank. I top off to the nearest $0.50 and never have a problem.
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RallyMini370 Well-Known Member
Is the tank on the red light close to empty? I used to get something like this with the Subaru. I figured either there was something in the tank or air got sucked up? So I filled up on 1/4 tank to fix the issue.
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