Most liked posts in thread: Ethanol free vs 10%

ETHANOL IS EVIL!

SCOTT

 

Sunoco or Shell 93 with ethanol here.

But then again I also have a Meth kit running 99.97% pure VP M1 Meth.

Plus 101 octaine race fuel is running $6.95 a gallon, so I will save that full tank of race fuel for the Dragon.:devil::devil::devil::devil::ihih::ihih:

 

1. It will make your wallet lighter.

2. It makes the exhaust smell awesome.

3. Turns the tips white instead of black.

 

getting an extra 5-6 mpg using the E0 translates to an extra 60-72 miles per tank

the engines starts smoother during cold starts

ethanol is corrosive, the less exposure, the better

i cannot say my butt dyno feels any advantage to the E0, but my wallet dyno says the extra cost of the E0 is negated by the extra gas mileage it yields

the 42 mile r/t to get the E0 is all on backroads and is a very nice drive

scott

 

I have a buddy Roger in CIMC who compiled this little white paper on Ethanol blends for his local MINI club. You may not agree with his position on everything but it's a nice piece of work and definitely worth reading...

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5vARx6WMX4SbXY3U2w5QjhZU1k

 

Not sure how much it effects you gen2 guys, but on a gen1 car (pretuned, prejcw injectors) it was like night and day....
I can only suspect that since ethonol has les btu's per given volume, more fuel is needed...so lower mpgs are common, and beyond that, most gen cars, especially modded ones, are running at about the limit of duration on the injectors....so just adding 1 or 2% fuel needed on the longterm fuel trims in the computer (more volume based upon need to keep the mixture as needed), the computer might be more likely to have to retard timing due to less fuel getting injected to prevent detonation....once i got my jcw380's installed mine ran better, and then even better after a tune.
All things equel, i would avoid ethonol on a gen1...newer cars may have been factory tuned with the understanding e-10 was common in the us....heck i remember back in late 2005 when gas stations switched from mtbe(made from natrual gas, also an "oxygenate ") to e10..quite a change ...and not for the better.

 

Ethanol contains less energy, and can be used to raise the octane of cheaper/poorer quality hydrocarbons (heptane) owing to it's 108 octane rating (IIRC). It's also hygroscopic.

10% ethanol fuel definitely results in poorer fuel economy - I noticed a big difference in my Ford Escort back when Louisiana first switched over. At least 2mpg difference per tank (~5% decrease).

 

i see 2-4 less mpg in my 1997 gmc sonoma v6

but my 2012 cms all4 is at least 6 mpg less with E10!

the cm runs smoother, especially when cold with no ethanol fuel

scott

 

You're lucky you're somewhere you can get ethanol-free fuel. I can't seem to find any in central texas

 

In Oklahoma it is law to post it on the pump. It's pretty clear here knowing if it is an ethanol station or not. Plus the posted prices generally speak of the gas type before even pulling in.

It's a nice thing to have. The 100% gas stations usually clearly advertise with a banner or something to catch your attention.

 

I think you are supposed to post it here too, but some places don't... I think they are too lazy.

Funny thing is my husband now gets his gas at the "corn stations". His car is set up to run a mix of 93 and E85.
His car world refers to it as "E47".

Damn corn lovers :lol:

 

Corn Fuel still just sounds funny to me.

Why cant we make fuel for cars out of a usless food like Turnips. You know big fat Turnips. :lol:

 

Turnips :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

We need turnips to make a proper chicken soup. Corn, not so much.

 

check out this web site

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

click on the "maps" button

there are stations in texas that sell E0, ethanol free gas

scott

 

Yes - but Texas is a very large state, and there aren't any stations on that map near Austin. There is one off of 71 after La Grange heading toward Houston, but that would be a special trip for when I'm driving to Louisiana.

 

sorry, you only said central texas, but it is a great resource if you are on a road trip

i have to go 21 miles 1 way to get E0 ethanol free mobil gas, but it is well worth it

scott

 

The UK has 95 octane with no stupid ethanol added but it ain't cheap.
The whole scam of adding ethanol by mandate is screwing up the price of foodstuffs worldwide.
Using ethanol actually creates more smog than using regular gas, and the EPA's own attorneys had to admit that fact in front of the justices presiding over the Third Circuit Court of Appeals in 1995 (API v. EPA).

 

Are you doing this for every tank?