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  1. Eric@Helix

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    If you strike out on a good, used OEM and decide to go aftermarket, the best exhaust IMO is the Milltek. Their R53 exhaust is pretty sweet.
     
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    Be careful...

    "I didn't inhale" can lead to "I never had sex with that woman".
     
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    Ok so after all that BS, the best exhaust for an R53 is a Milltek.
     
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    Jeff, can you tell the difference between the exhaust and the stogies? :D:rolleyes::cornut:
     
  5. cct1

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    Worst argument in the book is using sampling error. There are people who will smoke and not get lung cancer. There are people who do not smoke that will get lung cancer (a cereal farmer, by the way, may have a radium exposure issue, depending on the region of the country. Wanna guess if that increases your risk of lung cancer?). To justify smoking because someone who smoked didn't get lung cancer just changes the argument, but doesn't change the fact. You smoke, you have a higher risk of lung cancer.

    Cigars are different than cigarettes obviously with regard to lung cancer. I have no problems with people enjoying a stogie, I just don't want it in my face. From Steve Martin:

    "Mind if I smoke?"

    "Sure, go ahead. Mind if I fart?"

    I agree with freedom of choice wholeheartedly. What you do in the privacy of your home on your own time is your business, not mine. It's absolutely fair to cast aspersions on people who smoke around those that do not, they are putting those people at risk. It's why smoking has been banned in many places, and rightfully so. You want to take the risk, go for it. Just don't share that risk with others. And it 's not just risk of lung cancer--smoking around people with reactive air disease, COPD, severe emphysema, etc. is incredibly selfish. Like pouring water on a drowning man.

    You want to smoke, knock yourself out. But don't argue it's not a risk because not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer, and have some respect for the people around you.

    Off my soapbox, tune into your regularly scheduled channel.
     
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    I didn't read the whole thread, but let the record show that I'm hurt.
     
  7. wmwny

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    I have a Milltek on my '06 MCS. It rattles when I start the car and quickly disappears when the car warms.. I had the car gone over at MAG and they were [of course] quick to note that it's an exhaust leak in the same area. Whe I went to the Dragon last year with it, I talked to Waylen about it and he told me that there is a rubber gasket there that disintegrates over time and the joint slightly loosens when the engine cools. "Is it a problem?", I asked. I was told it is not, unless I was idling in an enclosed area and was contemplating suicide. Otherwise, I could drive safely in all the elements without worrying about impending doom.
     
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    Yup I counted at least 3 up against the side of the garage.

    I would check in to the gasket idea first.

    Don't buy a new OEM. Chris said he was coming to donuts Saturday so check with him.
    After that I would check for used parts. A request on the board and carparts.com or with with a new or used aftermarket system.
     
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    Absolutely! Stogies are plant material and are aged. They can even be eaten and/or chewed, which is what some fanciers of cigars do instead of smoking them. Stogies can be smoked and inhaled or smoked and not inhaled. I only do the latter [puff and exhale only]. MY lungs are clean, although I cannot say that about smokers who inhale. :frown2:

    The exhaust is made of metal and is only aged if one does not sell it off the shelf. It cannot be eaten, and I do not recommend chewing them [hard on the teeth, ya know?]. Some exhausts smoke and some do not...doesn't matter...inhaling from an exhaust is a quick way to the "other side"!
     
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    #13 cct1, May 21, 2015
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    It hasn't. Smoking rates went down considerably after the warning came out. It took time, but it did. The warning has not fallen on on "deaf ears"; exactly the opposite. Just because a few people ignored it doesn't mean it hasn't been effective.

    VERY few doctors smoke (a few of the older guys but they are few and far between), some do, but much, much less than the general population. Virtually NONE of the younger doctors smoke (In fact not a single one in our multispeciality group), i.e. those born or entering practice after the warning. Fact.

    Breathing in polluted air is nowhere near a risk factor for lung cancer as first or second hand smoke. It slightly increases the risk of lung cancer, but it's real risk is with reactive air disease rather than cancer.
     
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    You can always find articles to support your opinion and that's what I did (see below). My original thoughts? I feel the tobacco industry is an easy target for the govt to point a finger and raise a tax... that is not to deny any health risk of course. Just my .02.

    Health Benefits of Cigar Tobacco Leaves

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  12. cct1

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    OK, wait a second here...Never did I disagree there were other ways you could ruin your lungs (see the radium comment). There are plenty of ways to do it; but I was specifically addressing lung cancer/smoking. But because there are other ways to accomplish destroying your lungs, at least to me, that doesn't get smoking off the hook.

    And I have absolutely no problem at all with you or anyone else smoking, especially if that's how you approach it. It's your choice, your risk, and if you have the decency to think of the others around you, hats off. I drive ridiculously high speeds on the track. It's not entirely rational, but I do it. It's a risk I'm willing to take (I don't do it on public roads, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms).

    Don't know about Radium and Spain, that's too far off my radar, lol. It would be interesting to see what the rates of lung cancer are in the region though, just out of curiosity.
     
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    Good advice, I'm taking a nap. I'm at work, so it's going to be tough, but I'll manage.
     
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    When I first started going to Spain back in the mid-'60s, I had never smoked. I was appalled that in the small villages, people were still cooking over wood fires [like in Colonial Williamsburg]. The old men could not afford "good" [red] tobacco, so they smoked black [aka pipe] tobacco and rolled their own...no lighters or matches, just a rope with a flint striker to get a spark. I have no idea what the lung cancer rates are/were in Spain.

    I sponsor the Cigar Salon at MOTD NOT because I am gung-ho on smoking, but because it offers those who do smoke a "safe haven" [somewhere to kick back, smoke and not be criticized] after the Welcome Dinner and after a long day of driving, so to speak. People who do not smoke do not have to attend, but the people who do attend, are usually smokers or do not mind the secondhand smoke. The number of cigarette smokers who attend usually appalls me, however. That's THEIR choice, not mine. You already know what mine is and, until I quit or die, it will never be cigarettes.

    Life itself is a risk...everyday. We make our own decisions about taking risks...some are calculated but many more are like playing Russian Roulette...games of chance, luck, fate...whatever.

    Secondhand smoke, radon, carbon monoxide, radium contamination, herbicides, etc. High speed driving in a controlled setting like a track versus high speed driving like a lunatic on a public highway. Risky business, at best.
    Take your pick.
     
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    ....but not have sex with "that woman".
     
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    The best reasonably priced exhaust, yes. The best overall would be something custom with Coastfab, but you have sell organs to get one.
     
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    This thread has been quite exhausting...... :biggrin5:

    My apology's if I've offended anyone's sensibilities .
     
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    Thanks for the tip on Mad Hatter. I suspected something was wrong with my exhaust when the note changed [thanks speed bump] - they found a leak in the Exhaust Flex Pipe. Replaced it and welded a burnt [Purple] 3.5" Angle Double Wall Muffler Tip I previously purchased for $100.
     
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    I bet I know a guy who has like 10 oem exhausts just hanging around and won't charge 2 grand...... Where's Chris and Stephen when you need them.