Most liked posts in thread: F1 - 2011

  1. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2009
    5,146
    1,302
    113
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Ratings:
    +1,302 / 0 / -0
    ......and from qualifying it looks to have been a very good move indeed!!! :)
     
  2. Zapski

    Zapski Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2011
    2,099
    889
    113
    Columbus, OH
    Ratings:
    +938 / 0 / -0
  3. Steve

    Steve Administrator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator

    Apr 23, 2009
    12,154
    3,164
    113
    Maryland, USA
    Ratings:
    +3,166 / 0 / -0
    How Button lost his mirror:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWaVJdO2oHk]Formula 1 | Belgium GP / Spa | Button with Luck - YouTube[/ame]
     
  4. Minidave

    Minidave Well-Known Member
    Lifetime Supporter

    Dec 22, 2009
    5,644
    4,601
    113
    Male
    Overland Park, Ks
    Ratings:
    +5,193 / 1 / -0
    Senna qualified well, but showed his inexperience in the first corner....hope he gets better. Of course, if Heidfeld wins his court case it all could be for naught. But I think even if Quick Nick wins, a judicious amount of money will change hands and it will all go away.....along with Nick.

    However, there's Romain Grosjean in the wings with a fresh GP2 title under his belt too, and already under contract to Renault......erm Lotus..........erm, whatever they'll be calling themselves next year.

    Great drives by both Michael Schumacher, Jensen Button and even Mock Webba after his horrendous start. What is it with Webbo and these bad starts? His car is exactly the same ae Vettel's, and Seb doesn't have these problems.....

    Great race! Lots of passing and repassing thruout, tire problems galore and no weather intrusion - terrific weekend!
     
  5. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2009
    5,146
    1,302
    113
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Ratings:
    +1,302 / 0 / -0
    Senna's prospects didn't last but till the very first turn...... :(

    Also can't figure what the deal is with Webber's starts, he had the RPMs but the car bogged down...too little throttle in fear of wheel spin?

    Have to admit Button had a great race considering; and it was so good to see a bit of the young Schumacher shining through. I would so love to see his final retirement be on an up note.... :)

    But in the end it twas Seb and Red Bull atop the podium....still the team to beat and with the showing Alonso had, me thinks the Scudaria still has a ways to go to catch them..... ;)
     
  6. Steve

    Steve Administrator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator

    Apr 23, 2009
    12,154
    3,164
    113
    Maryland, USA
    Ratings:
    +3,166 / 0 / -0
    I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about Hamilton's condition when he crashed out. He got out under his own power but he was clearly out for a bit in the car, not even moving. Seems like he should be in for a few medical tests at least to be sure he doesn't have a concussion.
     
  7. Crashton

    Crashton Club Coordinator

    Jun 4, 2009
    19,445
    10,057
    113
    Retired old fart
    Hooterville Ohio USA
    Ratings:
    +11,698 / 2 / -0
    Speculation, but I think he was gobsmacked that he took himself out & just sat there soaking it all in. From where I sat Kobie did nothing wrong.

    I'm certain he will have his head looked at, first by the doctors & next by the team.
     
  8. ScottinBend

    ScottinBend Space Cowboy
    Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    8,767
    2,547
    113
    Bend, OR USA
    Ratings:
    +2,678 / 1 / -0
    If you watch the in-car when it happened, Hamilton made no steering input at all.

    And you can see from the down track camera that the distance from the white fog line to Kobie's car actually increases as Kobie goes down the track.
     
  9. Steve

    Steve Administrator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator

    Apr 23, 2009
    12,154
    3,164
    113
    Maryland, USA
    Ratings:
    +3,166 / 0 / -0
    Contrite Hamilton apologises (planetf1.com)
     
  10. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2009
    5,146
    1,302
    113
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Ratings:
    +1,302 / 0 / -0
    Almost brings a tear to your eye, don't it......
     
  11. Steve

    Steve Administrator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator

    Apr 23, 2009
    12,154
    3,164
    113
    Maryland, USA
    Ratings:
    +3,166 / 0 / -0
    There's nothing sensational in here, I just tend to enjoy Mark Webber's comments when he's not in one of his he-man, macho driver moods.

    Webber: Alonso pass would have been different with others (crash.net)
     
  12. ScottinBend

    ScottinBend Space Cowboy
    Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    8,767
    2,547
    113
    Bend, OR USA
    Ratings:
    +2,678 / 1 / -0
    Wow.....and from his in car camera it didn't appear he made any steering input at all.

    Must have still been a bit "dizzy" from the off............:D
     
  13. Steve

    Steve Administrator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator

    Apr 23, 2009
    12,154
    3,164
    113
    Maryland, USA
    Ratings:
    +3,166 / 0 / -0
    I didn't pay attention to Hamilton's onboard but just watching the view from the corner as the two approached I'd say you're right. Hamilton kept a straight line toward his turning point but Kobayashi was in the way. He complained about his McLaren being down on straight line speed relative to others and I think this was one of the times it caught him out. I guess Hamilton thought he'd fully passed Kobayashi on the straight leading to the corner so didn't need to worry about someone else being on his line and didn't see him...maybe didn't even look?
     
  14. Alan

    Alan Active Member

    May 6, 2009
    353
    98
    28
    retired
    New Braunfels, Texas
    Ratings:
    +98 / 0 / -0
    Hey, they left a few words - Here is the complete quote:

    "Obviously, my attitude might have been a bit different with someone else, let's say like my teammate, but, in the end, it worked out for me today but, in Monza, maybe it's his turn to do it to me."
     
  15. Steve

    Steve Administrator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator

    Apr 23, 2009
    12,154
    3,164
    113
    Maryland, USA
    Ratings:
    +3,166 / 0 / -0
    "IN RESPONSE TO HURRICANE IRENE POWER OUTAGES, EVACUATIONS, SPEEDâ„¢ ADDS FORMULA ONE REPLAY"

    SPEEDâ„¢ Adds Belgian Grand Prix Replay (formula-one.speedtv.com)
     
  16. Zapski

    Zapski Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2011
    2,099
    889
    113
    Columbus, OH
    Ratings:
    +938 / 0 / -0
    I just watched that again (and again), and Hamilton was holding his line after a solid pass, looking into the apex. Kobayashi took the turn on the outside, trusting his own idea (not a good strategy) of what Hamilton was going to do. He should have held his position and tried to pass after the chicane. IMO

    I cry shenanigans. :mad5:

    {/Armchair Ref}
     
  17. ScottinBend

    ScottinBend Space Cowboy
    Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    8,767
    2,547
    113
    Bend, OR USA
    Ratings:
    +2,678 / 1 / -0
    Dang.....how did I miss that video of Button loosing his mirror!
    All I could think of after watching it was Massa..........:eek6:
     
  18. Steve

    Steve Administrator
    Staff Member Articles Moderator

    Apr 23, 2009
    12,154
    3,164
    113
    Maryland, USA
    Ratings:
    +3,166 / 0 / -0
    I had similar thoughts. I guess that was part of Senna's front wing. The video I linked to is gone, here's another. Be patient, the Button part is last but there's a bit more video and it's worth a watch IMO.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GBt9eGk9Xw]F1 2011 Belgium - The Start Onboard + Button Loses a Mirror - YouTube[/ame]
     
  19. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2009
    5,146
    1,302
    113
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Ratings:
    +1,302 / 0 / -0
    That could have been real ugly...:eek6:
     
  20. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

    Apr 7, 2009
    3,105
    394
    0
    LaLaLand, Left Coast, Overpopulated and Underfunde
    Ratings:
    +394 / 0 / -0
    Yep. That thing went through the mirror like hot knife through butter.