F1 - 2011

Alan · Jul 12, 2011

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I was going to ask how angry folks figure Webber is over being told to stay behind Vettel on the last lap but he reduced his options to complain slightly by, according to him, ignoring and continuing to try to pass. If he'd followed the order he could have really gone off and blamed the team for his having to settle for 3rd but he tried to pass and couldn't pull it off so has no one to blame but himself.

Vettel admits he was lucky because Webber was faster and just couldn't make the pass.

Horner says the instruction was given because they were about to gain another pile of points and couldn't afford to end with both cars in a heap and zero points. Would they have told Vettel the same if the roles were reversed?
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NO

And the points excuse is a bunch of BS. Vettel could take the next three races off, and come back still leading the championship. And RBR has a similar sized lead in the constructors championship.

Mark can rationalize all he wants. The German driver is #1 in the Austrian team!

Steve · Jul 12, 2011

Alonso draws level with Stewart in F1 record books (crash.net)

Double F1 World Champion Fernando Alonso has drawn level with Sir Jackie Stewart in the F1 race-winner record books following his superb British Grand Prix victory at Silverstone last weekend.

Stewart made his final F1 start in the 1973 Canadian Grand Prix at Mosport Park, a race earlier than planned due to the tragic death of his Tyrrell team-mate FranÃ§ois Cevert during practice for the season-ending United States Grand Prix at Watkins Glen.

That meant that the Scottish hero departed the fray with 27 victories from 99 grand prix starts â€“ and it would be 14 years before Alain Prost surpassed that by triumphing for a 28th time in the 1987 Portuguese Grand Prix at Estoril. It would be a further 14 years again before Michael Schumacher similarly eclipsed the Frenchman's winning tally, when he prevailed in the 2001 Belgian Grand Prix, the seven-time world champion's 52nd career success.

Alonso now requires a further five wins to leapfrog 1992 title-winner Nigel Mansell into fourth spot in the all-time rankings. Schumacher (91), Prost (51) and the late, great Ayrton Senna (41) occupy the leading three positions.

Alonso's 19th fastest lap from 167 races has lifted the Ferrari star onto a par with Senna, Sir Stirling Moss and Damon Hill â€“ and seven more would carry him past Mika Hakkinen into sixth in that particular list.
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Steve · Jul 12, 2011

I agree with this guy about Mosley but if he really thinks the only reason F1 didn't go to Bahrain is because they were short on ambulances ... wow.

Bahrain GP chief slams sanctimonious teams (Autosport)

Bahrain Grand Prix chairman Zayed Alzayani has criticised Formula 1 teams for their attitude towards the event after months of uncertainty about it.

The Sakhir race, which was scheduled to be the season opener this year, was postponed due to the unrest in the country.

Although the FIA reinstated the grand prix, teams opposed the move and the race was eventually cancelled.

Alzayani, who visited the British Grand Prix last weekend, was critical of the teams for being 'very temperamental'.

He also suggested that if Formula 1 was not going to Bahrain for the violation of human rights, most grands prix should also be called off.

"They're going to the US next year," Alzayani told the London Evening Standard. "What about Guantanamo? Isn't that human rights violation? As Bernie [Ecclestone] told me, 'If human rights was the criterion for F1 races, we would only have them in Belgium and Switzerland in the future'."

He added: "They [the teams] have been very temperamental. I feel disappointed because it cannot go within three months from one end of the spectrum, 'Oh, you are my favourite destination. We love it here. We feel like we are at home in Bahrain.' To the other, 'We don't want to go to Bahrain.' Yes, events have happened in between but you can't be so temperamental."

Alzayani said Formula 1 boss Ecclestone always pushed for the race to go ahead, but he denied it was about trying not to lose millions of dollars if the event was cancelled.

"It was a unanimous vote of all the 26 World Council members. Bernie voted for it. On the June 8, I met him here in London.

"He said, 'There is resistance from the teams but if you want I'll push for it. We'll get it sorted.' He even gave us the option of holding it on December 4. This was never about Bernie losing money by not having a race in Bahrain."

Alzayani claimed that the main reason why Bahrain decided to pull its race off in the end was because of a lack of ambulances in the country.

"We have to have a minimum of 18 ambulances to run a race and, because of the riots and people getting injured, all the ambulances were diverted to attend to the protests. So we couldn't run the race," he Alzayani.

The Bahrain GP boss was also critical of former FIA president Max Mosley for his comments over Carlos Gracia, the man sent by the FIA to assess the situation in Bahrain.

Mosley had criticised the FIA for having sent a "very, very nice man called Gracia, [who] speaks no English and, as far as I know, speaks no Arabic."

"That shows you how naive Max Mosley is," Alzayani said. "There were translators there. I don't have to speak Chinese to do business in China. Max is very vocal and not accurate. He talks about morality - if I was him, I would probably not use the word 'morality'.

"I think Max has a grudge against Bahrain because he was officially asked by the Crown Prince not to attend the grand prix."

Bahrain is scheduled to return to the Formula 1 calendar next year, having been given the season-opening slot again.

AUTOSPORT understands, however, that teams are keen for it to move to later in the campaign so its potential return does not overshadow the start of the season.

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minimark · Jul 12, 2011

Illustrious company to be in indeed, congrats Alonso!

am0eba · Jul 12, 2011

The *reason* behind the ambulance shortage was treated a bit callously...

_Dave_

Zapski · Jul 14, 2011

Interesting....

Raikkonen to replace Webber at Red Bull? — Autoblog

If you were watching the British Grand Prix this past weekend, you may have noticed a little friction in the Red Bull Racing team. And we're not talking about Sebastian Vettel and his team's jammed wheel gun that cost him the race.

In the closing laps of the race, Mark Webber had closed in right on Vettel's tail in a close fight for second place. But then the team radioed Webber and instructed him to back off. Webber ignored the team orders and kept pressing, and while he didn't manage to get by and didn't cause either to crash, it undoubtedly caused some consternation on Red Bull's pit wall.

Now rumor has it that the team is so angry with their No. 2 driver that they're preparing to give him the boot. In his place, according to reports, the reigning champions are planning on bringing in Kimi Raikkonen.

Of course this isn't the first time Raikkonen has been linked to an F1 return with Red Bull Racing. The 2007 champion left F1 a couple of years ago after Ferrari shoved him out the nest (with a big golden parachute, mind you), competing since in the World Rally Championship and in NASCAR, but has never ruled out a grand prix comeback.

Kimi's long been sponsored by Red Bull (the energy drink company that owns the F1 team in question), and apparently has close personal ties to Vettel. But few people know for sure whether the team orders incident at Silverstone was enough to break the proverbial camel's back in the often strained relations between Webber and RBR's management.
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Steve · Jul 14, 2011

Counterpoint...

Webber will re-sign for Red Bull, says team owner (Reuters via eurosport.yahoo.com)

Wed, 13 Jul 23:30:00 2011

Australian Mark Webber will re-sign for Formula One champions Red Bull, team owner Dietrich Mateschitz was quoted as saying on Wednesday.

The Austrian energy drink billionaire told autosport.com that there were no doubts about the 34-year-old despite the driver ignoring team orders at last weekend's British Grand Prix.

"Mark Webber will re-sign with us," Mateschitz said. "This will happen for sure. He is very popular within the team, he feels very comfortable and it is an excellent relationship. He knows this and we know it.

"To be honest, Mark has no better choice than the fastest car and we have no better choice for a fast driver."

The Austrian said he had no problem with Webber turning a deaf ear to instructions not to try to pass team mate and championship leader Sebastian Vettel in the closing laps at Silverstone.

"This is no problem for us," he said. "Sebastian realised that (Ferrari's) Fernando Alonso was gone and could not be caught anymore, so he backed down.

"This let Mark close in. He would be a very bad racer had he not tried to attack and gain a position."

Alonso won the British Grand Prix, with world champion Vettel second and Webber third.

The Australian, second in the championship but 80 points behind his team mate, said after the race he had ignored orders for him to maintain position.

His stance had raised questions about the future, with Webber out of contract at the end of the year.
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Zapski · Jul 14, 2011

Now they're just messing with us

Redbeard · Jul 14, 2011

I'm late to the party (I just watched the recording last night) here but:

-Commercials? What commercials? I have a DVR.

-Telling Weber to back-off was BEYOND retarded. He's an excellent driver and deserves better. I'm a fan of Vettle and Weber but I don't like seeing either one being told to back off the help the other out. That's crap. :incazzato:

-Admittedly Guantanamo is a travesty at best. However, comparing that to what was happening in Bahrain? Fail. Ambulances, bah. :frown2:

-Kimi? Really? Sounds like rumor mill status stuff.

...aaaaannnnddd I'm done.

Steve · Jul 14, 2011

How 'bout some good news for a change?

Injured Robert Kubica is on track for 2012 F1 return (news.bbc.co.uk)

Injured Renault driver Robert Kubica says he is confident he will return to Formula One in 2012.

The 26-year old is currently undergoing rehabilitation after being injured in a rally crash in February that has ruled him out of the 2011 F1 season.

Speaking to the Renault website, Kubica was asked whether he would be on the grid next year.

"Yes," the Pole said. "I am satisfied with how things are proceeding. Mentally, I've no problem at all."

Kubica's most notable injury was a severed right hand, but he insisted there are no psychological impacts on him from the accident.

He added: "Physically, I am still a bit weak, but my general condition is quite good.

"My weight has now returned to its normal level and for a few weeks I've been able to walk without help. All in all I feel pretty well.

"The improvement is in line with the expectations, and luckily there are no complications that could affect the recovery time.

"It is still too early to have a clear picture for the timing of my return, but the important thing is the final outcome, not the hurry."

Kubica said he had no recollection of the accident, and consequently no psychological barrier to racing again.

"I am just aware of the consequences it had," he said. "So to me it's as if it never happened."

He said there were no doubts about which team he would drive for.

"I'm a Lotus Renault GP driver," he said. "Of course, I'm missing not being able to drive this season but I feel that my job in Enstone isn't finished yet."
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minimark · Jul 14, 2011

Good news indeed!

Zapski · Jul 15, 2011

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-0XbEqtwEc]Fernando Alonso en el Ferrari 375 de F1 - YouTube[/ame]

Ferrari sure had a lot to celebrate this past weekend at Silverstone. Not only did Fernando Alonso score the team's first win of the season, but he did it on a rather momentous occasion for the Scuderia: Sixty years ago in 1951, JosÃ© FloilÃ¡n GonzÃ¡lez scored the team's very first victory at the same grand prix, held on the same second weekend in July as this year's race.

In what might be seen as a bit of a premonition of Alonso's victory, or maybe just a little touch of good luck, the two-time world champion borrowed the very same car in which GonzÃ¡lez took the checkered flag there sixty years ago around for a couple of hot laps, and even got it a little sideways coming out of the corners.

The 1951 Ferrari 375 today belongs to F1 chief Bernie Ecclestone, who was evidently glad to bring it over to the Northamptonshire circuit for the historic demonstration and entrust it to a pair of hands that, as proven on race day, are some of the most skilled in the world....
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Via Autoblog

goaljnky · Jul 15, 2011

I need to try that negative camber on my car. :biggrin5:

Angib · Jul 15, 2011

I'm not 100% sure on the benefit of having a Hans restraint in a car with no safety belts ut:

Nice drifting though - looked like he could get oversteer and understeer, pretty much at the same time....

ScottinBend · Jul 15, 2011

goaljnky said: ↑

I need to try that negative camber on my car. :biggrin5:
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Negative....positive does it really matter?

Steve · Jul 19, 2011

Nurburgring Puts Future In Ecclestoneâ€™s Hands (formula-one.speedtv.com / Speed Staff / GMM Newswire)

- Whether this weekend's race will be the last at the Nurburgring depends on the demands of Bernie Ecclestone...

The Nurburgring aims to stay on the Formula One calendar beyond 2011 by renegotiating the financial terms of its contract.

With the Rhineland-Palatinate state now run by a SPD/Green coalition, minister Eveline Lemke on Monday said that despite the contract running through 2016, this weekend's race will be the last one supported financially by the government.

"The conditions at the moment generate high and no longer acceptable losses," DPA news agency quotes circuit operator Jorg Lindner as saying.

"So there will only be a continuation of the great and legendary tradition of Formula One at the Nurburgring if a future contract includes economically and politically acceptable conditions," he added.

And minister Lemke is quoted by the Financial Times Deutschland: "Whether this weekend's race will be the last depends on the demands of Bernie Ecclestone."
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Steve · Jul 19, 2011

A little nostalgia with Jackie Stewart (with David Hobbs) commenting on the 1973 Nurburgring GP in which Stewart competed.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IfKptzLWck]F1 - 1973 NÃ¼rburgring Nordschleife - 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEho9y4vwDE]F1 - 1973 NÃ¼rburgring Nordschleife - 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

Steve · Jul 19, 2011

Beautiful, vintage F1 noise.

1 comment before you click, be patient and turn up the volume. :devil:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrBTtbCAB4]BRM V-16 engine sound GREAT SOUND - YouTube[/ame]

Zapski · Jul 23, 2011

OK, I'll be getting up around 7:30AM EST to see if I can find a live stream to the race. I will post here as soon as I find one, which may not be until 8:00 AM, so be patient.

Dwight · Jul 23, 2011

This ain't exactly F1, but look what I found kinda in a corner while visiting the Peterson Museum for the fist time today. Do you know this car and what it nearly pulled off against Europe's finest almost 60yrs ago? I thought it had gone to the compacter long ago.

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